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    Mr_Happy's Avatar
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    Veleda Haze
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    Elitist Housing Must Go. Every Single Player Should Have A House.

    Coming from an MMO player of 20+ years who has played almost all the big titles and many smaller ones as well. For many players of MMOs, housing is a major part of the endgame. It allows us to artistically express ourselves.

    No player should ever have to feel the soul crushing pain of losing a housing lottery over and over again with a sliver of hope in sight for the future.

    The current system excludes the majority of players from using a major piece of content. Leaving them feeling like what is the point of grinding and continuing playing this game if I will never be able to own a house. All while a handful of players are happily building and using their homes.

    I for one would like to see and inclusive system over an exclusive system.

    We have a global standard when it comes to MMOs and expect a certain level of polish/features or we just move onto a different game. Housing is the true endgame for me and without access to it I cannot see myself playing this game past the storyline and some of the end game raids.

    Every single player really should be able to have a house even multiple houses.

    The pure joy I felt playing ESO and owning multiple instanced houses and being able to build houses out of scratch on empty plots was overwhelmingly fun. They have a housing mod also which makes it easier to build your custom homes though.

    Basically I would like for FF14 players to experience even a sliver of that joy.

    The housing is already very basic and limited. It takes a massive amount of time to set up a house and after you have it finished you are less inclined to redecorate which is the appeal of owning multiple houses so we can have different setups.

    Lost Ark has an option where you can save multiple setups also. I believe they have about 10 or so presets.

    If this was implemented in FF14 you could click a button and you house is a tavern, another button and your house has a kitchen/bedrooms, another button something else. The sky is the limit.

    I would prefer multiple houses but this option works also.

    Constantly running full wards is a massive drain on system resources. The majority of resources for instanced houses are not being used if no players are there.

    My suggestion is to keep the wards the way they are or convert them all to FC only. Since FC's are gaming the system and ruining the experience for other players anyways.

    Add instanced housing options where all players can build a small/med or large depending on their budget for the rest of the players in the meanwhile. Those players can then move to a ward when/if they are even lucky enough to win a lottery.

    The economy boost from furniture was also insanely good in ESO since we had very high demand for furniture with all the houses we owned. We could hunt around for furniture recipes as rare drops or loot them from containers. Other systems would reward furniture recipes. For me it was the hottest way to make money.

    Forcing players to maintain a subscription to save their house with no other options available to them is predatory also, as players spend countless hours on decorating their homes just right. People can risk it to be in a ward if they want but instanced houses never go away. I can log into ESO after 4 years and play with all my houses.

    Housing for all please !!! <3

    Edit*

    Another amazing/easy to implement solution that I have seen going around is to add the ability to build your own small/med/large house on your island sanctuary. You will still be able to keep or buy a house in a ward (if you are lucky enough) as well as have the house on your island.

    This idea would allow for more, artistic expression, venues and depth to the game.

    Please come to the future SE and give us instanced options... Your game is really good other than the inventory system and housing...
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    Last edited by Mr_Happy; 02-21-2023 at 08:59 AM.

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    Raim Surion
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    People wont actually like instanced housing, it'll feel like second class housing compared to wards. It would be better if they just invested more into server infrastructure and over doubled the wards on NA/EU.
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    Veleda Haze
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    If only FC's are in wards and all individual players are in instanced housing then there is no hierarchy. Doubling the amount of wards still won't give us enough houses for every player to have one.

    We pay for a sub to a game that doesn't let us use one of it's main features unless we are lucky enough to win a lottery.
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    People wont actually like instanced housing, it'll feel like second class housing compared to wards. It would be better if they just invested more into server infrastructure and over doubled the wards on NA/EU.
    I can say with 100% certainty that you absolutely do not speak for me, or "people."
    If I could own and decorate an instanced large plot sans neighbors, I'd be perfectly content with that, and at most I would go for a ward plot when it became available. Giving people a shoebox to fall back on and calling that the equivalent of "a second class mansion" is a little disingenuous, don't you think?

    Like, aside from the sheer size of the interior, the difference between a large plot and a small plot is almost 200 decoration slots. Calling it more of a "status" thing than a "I want to be able to decorate this" thing is a bit reductive/cynical.

    Doubling the wards wouldn't really help SE's image problem, as well, that they deal with on a regular basis. I know wards are basically already ghost towns, but there would be empty small plots all over the place. You'd see endless "dead game" screenshots. It also probably just, wouldn't serve everyone who wants to own a plot of the size they want; which is a key point that instanced housing could address.
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 01-30-2023 at 05:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    I can say with 100% certainty that you absolutely do not speak for me, or "people."
    If I could own and decorate an instanced large plot sans neighbors, I'd be perfectly content with that, and at most I would go for a ward plot when it became available. Giving people a shoebox to fall back on and calling that the equivalent of "a second class mansion" is a little disingenuous, don't you think?
    I agree, personally I don't care about second class or anything I just want to own and design a house to create depth and individuality through artistic expression like every other good MMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    I agree, personally I don't care about second class or anything I just want to own and design a house to create depth and individuality through artistic expression like every other good MMO
    If this were true, you would own a house by now as there are plenty of new servers with a plethora of houses STILL available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINEHausMINE View Post
    If this were true, you would own a house by now as there are plenty of new servers with a plethora of houses STILL available.
    It's better to complain though than to use one of the solutions available
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINEHausMINE View Post
    If this were true, you would own a house by now as there are plenty of new servers with a plethora of houses STILL available.
    I'd have to agree.

    I mean, is the issue that some are being really selective about specific plots? If so, I don't really understand that since, prior to new wards being added, you just had to throw bids at whatever plot happened to become available.

    I'll admit that I was lucky enough to get a (small) house exactly where I wanted one. Granted it's in (what discussion here indicates) is a less desirable location (The Goblet), but fact is I was the only person who bid on it.
    And of the three plots nearest my house one (a large plot) was claimed and the remaining two appear to have attracted no interest.

    Feel like I'm missing something here. Is the issue that these people that don't have a house will only bid for Medium or Large plots? Surely if someone is that desperate for a house they'd look for, and bid on, a small plot with zero bids against it?
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    Last edited by Carin-Eri; 01-31-2023 at 12:27 AM.

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    Veleda Haze
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINEHausMINE View Post
    If this were true, you would own a house by now as there are plenty of new servers with a plethora of houses STILL available.
    O I didn't think of transferring to a new data center just to be able to buy a house. You are a genius!! Problem instantly solved!!

    Ok for real though... The point I am trying to make is that every player should have the ability to purchase a house not just a select few.

    I would have to quit my FC and basically quit all my friends on my DC and start over fresh on a new DC just to buy a house???

    My friends can't teleport to my house since I am on a different DC now and DC travel can take around 30 mins from what I have read. Once you get there you can't really do much either so there is not much point in traveling over either...
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    I would be content if they allowed us to build a house on our island... start off small, and with gil, shells, or whatever be able to eventually upgrade it to a large would be amazing.
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