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  1. #21
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathleen_ View Post
    The sorry state of this playerbase.
    Not as sorry as your less than meaningful response!
    Let me fix this for ya.

    Have the day you deserve mate!
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Recuperate spamming doesn't add any meaningful strategic value to things IMO and I'd really rather just have a larger HP pool to begin with to reduce instances of getting deleted from existence before I can even utilize my MP.

    You cannot reasonably avoid exposing yourself to multiple players on the enemy team at all times and the squishy jobs can die in as little as three GCDs which when coupled with CC and the sluggish activation on Guard/Purify means that sometimes you're just going to die and can't really do anything about it.
    For real. My whole point is to spend more time fighting lol.
    Just takes me out of the rush when I'm stopping to recup. I want to kill!

    What is more strategic is finding a safe spot to use the long potion. People are not looking at the fact
    that you're slammed with 5 other peoples spells and AoE at all times. My little damage reduction doesn't mean much
    when I have WAR/WHM/SMN CCing me to hell, I can't use anything. Guard is also buggy to me and it has a delay so that is a fail.

    Granted, I'm saying this more as a CC player (Shoulda probably mentioned this earlier lol)
    where you're in a tiny arena and you're forced to pretty much go in all out.
    There's no where to really hide and chasing is bad. It's too chaotic but hey if you guys are fine with how it works that's okay.
    Just putting my complaint out there. Appreciate the responses either way minus the random joke above this quote lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathleen_ View Post
    The DRG player that didn't even know what Horrid Roar does calling anyone else a clown. lol
    I know what it does, it just doesn't matter when you're getting slammed by everything in a tiny arena.
    The only classes that have true def skills are the tanks.
    The clown post is because you came in here insulting instead of discussing.
    Thanks for coming!

    @Ransu - We see your flex mate, but that isn't relevant so and no one cares about you getting carried.

    Crap forum won't let me post again in a separate comment but whatever I said my piece anyway so do as ya'll like!
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    Last edited by Jybril; 01-29-2023 at 08:26 PM. Reason: Added quote.

  2. #22
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Recuperate spamming doesn't add any meaningful strategic value to things IMO and I'd really rather just have a larger HP pool to begin with to reduce instances of getting deleted from existence before I can even utilize my MP.

    You cannot reasonably avoid exposing yourself to multiple players on the enemy team at all times and the squishy jobs can die in as little as three GCDs which when coupled with CC and the sluggish activation on Guard/Purify means that sometimes you're just going to die and can't really do anything about it.
    I rarely have more than 1 death even when playing melee unless our team is just outright being outmatched which happens sometimes. Ya'll need to record your matches and review them to see why you're getting multiple deaths. Look at when and where you should have jumped in and when you should have started backing out to heal up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    Not as sorry as your less than meaningful response!
    Let me fix this for ya.
    Sorry, but he's not wrong. Most of you all are pretty terrible at pvp. I slept walked my way through the ranks till hitting plat which I regret doing because the queues after plat are 30+ minutes.
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    Last edited by Ransu; 01-27-2023 at 11:54 PM.

  3. #23
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    Kathleen Nadinea
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    The DRG player that didn't even know what Horrid Roar does calling anyone else a clown. lol
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  4. #24
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    Jettinson's Avatar
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Meh I just wish the game was consistent with some skills.
    I loathe I have to top myself if I do not want to get screwed by Ninja's LB, it's stupid as an example
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  5. #25
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    Ophelia Irika
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm not even sure how folks are able to find the time to spam Recuperate. I hardly get that opportunity lol. If I do get it though I usually die on the 3rd spam with the additional help from server ticks desperately trying to avoid being nuked by 3 people...you're actually lucky to be able to spam.

    Enough of me though. By asking for Recuperate to be removed you're essentially forcing people to have a near complete reliance on healers. Raising the HP bar may work at a lower level. However, at a higher level it won't matter. If folks know how to burst on the other side you're dead anyway.

    Compared to playing offensively you're already get a low reward for playing defensively. 90% guard, and it can be pierced, broken, or even negated entirely. You have Purify, and it doesn't even have the highest priority. How much lower you want the general defense to go?
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  6. #26
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathleen_ View Post
    The DRG player that didn't even know what Horrid Roar does calling anyone else a clown. lol
    You'd be surprised by how many people don't actually read the tooltips.
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  7. #27
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Sorry, but he's not wrong. Most of you all are pretty terrible at pvp. I slept walked my way through the ranks till hitting plat which I regret doing because the queues after plat are 30+ minutes.
    Ouu, we have a bad boy here. He reached plat. You're all bad players in comparison
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  8. #28
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Ouu, we have a bad boy here. He reached plat. You're all bad players in comparison
    If it makes you feel any better I was crystal in seasons 1-3. I didn't really bother pvping much on this character when they did the rank resets so I'm grinding through the ranks right now. Sadly the queue times doubled after nearing diamond.
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    Last edited by Ransu; 01-28-2023 at 05:08 AM.

  9. #29
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    BubblyBoar's Avatar
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    ITT: People that need to git gud.


    I don't usually give such a crass answer, but this is what this topic actually amounts to.
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  10. #30
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika View Post
    Enough of me though. By asking for Recuperate to be removed you're essentially forcing people to have a near complete reliance on healers. Raising the HP bar may work at a lower level. However, at a higher level it won't matter. If folks know how to burst on the other side you're dead anyway.

    Compared to playing offensively you're already get a low reward for playing defensively. 90% guard, and it can be pierced, broken, or even negated entirely. You have Purify, and it doesn't even have the highest priority. How much lower you want the general defense to go?
    I'm not really sure how adding that effective 60K HP from recuperate to the base HP pool so it can't be "wasted" from dying before you run out of MP would impact the gameplay dynamic negatively.

    It would actually work to the favor of XIV's slow server ticks because higher average time to kill means more time for guard/purify to take effect and potentially get you out of a tight spot.
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