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  1. #131
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    Barwara's Avatar
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    Barvara Theseafarer
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    On Zodiark, so not the most congested but not the least either, every ward/subdivision currently has at least three free plots after the first round, with some, even Empyreum, being 50% empty.
    ^^^
    On Zodiark as well, and surprised how easy it was to get a plot, knowing all we know about housing. In the past I rarely saw available plots, and I remember that when 6.0 came out Empyreum got filled up entirely eventually, but now there’s till a ton of plots left.
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  2. #132
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    The solution is simple, move and buy up your own plot to take away the chance for a multi-owner to have it. They're not going to take away from people who have had houses for years. If everyone who wanted a house moved to Dynamis, problem solved. Multi-owners can't take up more plots.
    They had the opportunity this go around to limit housing to one private and one FC per account period. Honestly I wouldn't have been surprised had they gone that route but they didn't. They are allowing those of us who play alts on multiple data centers and servers to buy housing still. Materia and Dynamis have tons of homes available. 4 more servers coming to Dynamis in the not too distant future will be another wave of thousands of homes not counting the completely new data center with 8 servers coming to the EU.

    I was frankly surprised and pleased to see them add 6 new wards in all housing areas on current servers and I wouldn't be surprised to see them do that again when more of their servers come online. The overall direction however is for the team to try and lessen the impact of over populated servers and try and even out populations across the new DC's and we are beginning to see that with the implementation of many more congested servers.
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  3. #133
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    They had the opportunity this go around to limit housing to one private and one FC per account period. Honestly I wouldn't have been surprised had they gone that route but they didn't. They are allowing those of us who play alts on multiple data centers and servers to buy housing still. Materia and Dynamis have tons of homes available. 4 more servers coming to Dynamis in the not too distant future will be another wave of thousands of homes not counting the completely new data center with 8 servers coming to the EU.

    I was frankly surprised and pleased to see them add 6 new wards in all housing areas on current servers and I wouldn't be surprised to see them do that again when more of their servers come online. The overall direction however is for the team to try and lessen the impact of over populated servers and try and even out populations across the new DC's and we are beginning to see that with the implementation of many more congested servers.
    One Private+FC per account per world honestly isn't too unreasonable. Per account in general might be a tad too much. You might have a character in EU and one on NA due to different friendship groups, and I don't see why you shouldn't be able to join an FC on each of those unless said FC didn't have a house...
    But even in order to do this, they would need to make it so alts on the same world share the same access, meaning if you have a house on one character, any other characters on that world also have ownership or even just tenancy rights. As well as all characters on a given world also automatically joining the same FC. This would unfortunately screw those over who use multiple alts to live multiple lives and hang out with different people, but that seems shady and being all-in on one FC would surely help community cohesion anyway.
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  4. #134
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    One Private+FC per account per world honestly isn't too unreasonable. Per account in general might be a tad too much. You might have a character in EU and one on NA due to different friendship groups, and I don't see why you shouldn't be able to join an FC on each of those unless said FC didn't have a house...

    But even in order to do this, they would need to make it so alts on the same world share the same access, meaning if you have a house on one character, any other characters on that world also have ownership or even just tenancy rights. As well as all characters on a given world also automatically joining the same FC. This would unfortunately screw those over who use multiple alts to live multiple lives and hang out with different people, but that seems shady and being all-in on one FC would surely help community cohesion anyway.
    I've created a small FC's on servers like Balmung for example where I have four 90 level alts along with an 80 level Male Viera who at the moment doesn't get much playtime but my other 4 get played just about every day, certainly weekly depending on content. Those alts for example all have Cerebus mounts from Bozja DRS and have all cleared the current patch. I share that house with my alts and some select friends as well.

    That does exclude me from joining another FC however but I can at least share housing with my alts that way. It's ridiculous that i can go to my house and just because it's owned by another of my characters not be able to use it. It's long overdue but will that ever happen well been 4 years since they said they were looking into it.

    The amount of demonizing that goes on in threads like this doesn't phase me some people collect mounts I collect alts. If I have a high level 90 level alt on a server and can get her a house I will. I have characters on Materia, Dynamis, Mana, Light, Chaos, Crystal and Aether. I'm not the typical crazy one would encounter just crazy is all but I'm certainly not representative of people who play alts in general.

    People following the rules as outlined by the SE team shouldn't have their homes stripped away with any new rules. I trust SE would never do that and only apply new rules to the community moving forward.

    The ward exploiters give those of us who follow the intent of the rules a bad name.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 01-25-2023 at 10:36 PM.

  5. #135
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    This is literally a non issue as long as there are plots available for purchase, which is the case in both goblet and empyreum areas on a huge majority of servers.

    If you are on Balmung or another extremely high pop world, you are inflicting it to yourself by being there, feel free to move and get a house. Data center travel is a thing.

    Stop trying to strip away what people have gotten for the sake of "muh fairness", just go in a different area, and yes, it might be a bit less nice, so what ? It's a house isnt it ?
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  6. #136
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    This is literally a non issue as long as there are plots available for purchase, which is the case in both goblet and empyreum areas on a huge majority of servers.

    If you are on Balmung or another extremely high pop world, you are inflicting it to yourself by being there, feel free to move and get a house. Data center travel is a thing.

    Stop trying to strip away what people have gotten for the sake of "muh fairness", just go in a different area, and yes, it might be a bit less nice, so what ? It's a house isnt it ?
    You're playing on a super low pop EU server. In another cycle nearly all NA housing except maybe Dynamis will be taken. Telling people to leave their DC (and FC) behind isn't a solution to what is a developer problem, not a player problem.
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  7. #137
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    Ascended_Demon's Avatar
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    Roeganstyr Niufyrsyn
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    Coeurl
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    This is literally a non issue as long as there are plots available for purchase, which is the case in both goblet and empyreum areas on a huge majority of servers.

    If you are on Balmung or another extremely high pop world, you are inflicting it to yourself by being there, feel free to move and get a house. Data center travel is a thing.

    Stop trying to strip away what people have gotten for the sake of "muh fairness", just go in a different area, and yes, it might be a bit less nice, so what ? It's a house isnt it ?
    Balmung is, funnily enough, the NA world with the lowest "native" population, as in characters that were created on that world and can access retainers/purchase houses whilst on that world. This is not counting crossworld, data center visitors who all want to come and gawk at the "designated" RP world. So Balmung is far from a high pop server.

    And I did confirm the post above me, your world is actually the third least populated EU world, whilst being the least populated for EU endgame characters so yeah, it's no wonder there are so many available houses on your world. Congratulations, there's less competition, not everyone else is as lucky.
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    Last edited by Ascended_Demon; 01-26-2023 at 01:48 AM.

  8. #138
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    This is literally a non issue as long as there are plots available for purchase, which is the case in both goblet and empyreum areas on a huge majority of servers.

    If you are on Balmung or another extremely high pop world, you are inflicting it to yourself by being there, feel free to move and get a house. Data center travel is a thing.

    Stop trying to strip away what people have gotten for the sake of "muh fairness", just go in a different area, and yes, it might be a bit less nice, so what ? It's a house isnt it ?
    We just had to have wards added to every world because there were not enough available houses. Everywhere but Dynamis, Materia, and EU basically has their housing snapped up at this point, or will in the next few weeks and we'll need either a way to kick out people from unused or hoarded houses, or need to add even more again.
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  9. #139
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    On Zodiark, so not the most congested but not the least either, every ward/subdivision currently has at least three free plots after the first round, with some, even Empyreum, being 50% empty. My own ward has a Medium and 2 Smalls free, with 0 bids currently. While my friend's Empyreum subdivision has at least 15 Smalls and a couple of mediums sitting empty.
    Everyone who wants and can make use of a house can get one on Zodiark, if they're happy with a Small.
    The problem is people don't want Smalls, and pretend that there are NO HOUSES available because they won't stoop to a Small.
    There's a lot you can do with a Small, it's better than nothing.
    My FC ward in the Empyreum


    My apartment's ward


    My personal house's ward


    There are plots open.

    I know there's a difference between EU and NA, but in our side of the pond we aren't in need for availability.

    And you're right. I'm on record of having spoken ill about how Small houses are cramped for large-bodied races, and apartments even more so. Decorations are also a hit or miss with sizes sometimes too. But we CAN do quite a lot even with just an apartment alone.

    People need to drop their fear of Smalls. No, that's not a sleight against Lalafell nor an unwarranted immature joke on junk size, I really do mean that people need to stop thinking Small Houses are off-putting. Same for the Goblet as a liveable ward.

    And before anyone comments something snarky like "Easy for you to say, you have a Medium", a) I'm a big boy and my tenants are all big boys -w- we need space, and b) my FC gifted me that one years ago with money they had in the coffer before disbanding to go to Spriggan, I was perfectly happy with a Small in Shirogane as a Roegadyn.

    Edit: More than 1 House per account, I'd suggest cross-world housing Because some worlds are rather empty, and it's not fair to have to move there entirely just for the sake of a house.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 01-26-2023 at 02:37 AM.

  10. #140
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    SlouchyBard's Avatar
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    Aki M'njor
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    Still a bunch on Lamia open for lotto this time around too. The one near me still hasn't been bidded on. Plenty of mediums and I think a large or two left too.

    I got a medium last lottery because I played the lottery smart. I picked a house in Goblet right next to the apartment complex and had 0 other bidders. Same with a friend of mine. They got a medium too because they chose goblet and near undesirable locations.
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