[Housing] 1 House Per Service Account. 1 FC Per Service Account.

[DixieBellOCE]

It has started to spiral out of control.

People owning entire wards has existed for as long as housing has, And its about time SQE step up and take responsibility for the atrocious system that allows this to happen.

Every single server on Materia, Dynamis and many of the NEW housing wards on older servers, are being bought up by the Airship bot community.

These bots make people ridiculous amounts of Gil per month, some even have enough to hit a Gil cap every single month.

Where does all this Gil go? RMT, Where else could it go? By now some of them would have Hundreds of Gil caps.

SQE need to flat out restrict what people can own per service account, housing is already a massively contested market, and grandfathering in people that have abused the system for years is not a good look.

People that own Multi FCs/Personals should be made to choose ONE of each, and get refunded the base cost of the rest. And allow these houses to go back on the market for other people to buy.

TLR
Remove the ability for people to own hundreds of houses.

[Raoabolic]

I was salty I lost my medium to a coin flip too. :/

[DixieBellOCE]

I was salty I lost my medium to a coin flip too. :/

Oh i got my large.

Its just getting rediculous when you see a small part of the community abusing the system for monetary gain over other player's ability to enjoy the game in general.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Yeah this needs to be done imo. If SE is going to just keep with the limited plots system

[Laiyenu]

While I can't agree its rmt, housing should be 1 per account, it should have always been this.

[Skivvy]

While I can't agree its rmt, housing should be 1 per account, it should have always been this.

I would say maybe expand that to one house per world, per account. But if they're doing that, they really need to ensure that alts on the same world have full access to any owned property.

[rainichan]

It has started to spiral out of control.

People owning entire wards has existed for as long as housing has, And its about time SQE step up and take responsibility for the atrocious system that allows this to happen.

Every single server on Materia, Dynamis and many of the NEW housing wards on older servers, are being bought up by the Airship bot community.

These bots make people ridiculous amounts of Gil per month, some even have enough to hit a Gil cap every single month.

Where does all this Gil go? RMT, Where else could it go? By now some of them would have Hundreds of Gil caps.

SQE need to flat out restrict what people can own per service account, housing is already a massively contested market, and grandfathering in people that have abused the system for years is not a good look.

People that own Multi FCs/Personals should be made to choose ONE of each, and get refunded the base cost of the rest. And allow these houses to go back on the market for other people to buy.

TLR
Remove the ability for people to own hundreds of houses.

People get around it, though. It's already 1 personal 1 FC per world: I have a personal, I inherited a FC house which means I can't get another house on any of my characters on Balmung. Any other server though, I can also do that.

HOWEVER, what people do is split off into Shell FCs to get multiple housing, or just... buy multiple service accounts to horde houses (I'm looking at a couple of very specific individuals). Imagine spending hundreds every month to horde virtual houses because "bUt I lIkE tO dEcOrAtE" yeah, so would plenty of other people. I would prefer SE look at the fact that people are getting around housing limits by doing that and pulling houses off of them, but they won't because it's money. (imagine an upside down smiley here, the forums don't like to display it, sadge)

While people bash the lottery, on the higher pop servers where a lot of the house hoarders are and have been, it's helping mitigate their ability to take over entire wards. Wish SE would do something about the new servers though, and just look through logs of "hmm, this person left this FC but made a new one with the exact same tag, is transferring money back to the one they left by way of selling a Bom Boko to their old FC lead on the marketboard.... perhaps it's a shell? Maybe we should do something about that??" and... idk, auto-demo their stuff. It'd stop the issue from happening more often, and yeah they'd find ways around that, but SE needs to step up and take action for FCs who do shells or the people who have entire wards because "but I like decorating and I like projects!!!!!" and make them choose 1 and put the rest back on the market.

[ForteNightshade]

HOWEVER, what people do is split off into Shell FCs to get multiple housing, or just... buy multiple service accounts to horde houses (I'm looking at a couple of very specific individuals). Imagine spending hundreds every month to horde virtual houses because "bUt I lIkE tO dEcOrAtE" yeah, so would plenty of other people. I would prefer SE look at the fact that people are getting around housing limits by doing that and pulling houses off of them, but they won't because it's money. (imagine an upside down smiley here, the forums don't like to display it, sadge)

I doubt anyone denies people will find ways around whatever restrictions are implemented. The point is to make it increasingly more frustrating and difficult for them to accomplish that endeavor. Take the ever infamous duo on Mateus who own an entire ward to themselves after being Grandfathered in. Their whole stance was "well, nobody wanted them until Mateus became the new RP server. So too bad!" They don't have anywhere near the means to keep all those houses through multiple accounts, FCs and etc. Just taking away the Grandfather status immediately opens up 20+ plots on what is now one of the most populated servers. It's not much but is a definite start.

Remind me again why people don’t want instanced housing, but come up with ideas like OP? I wish people would stop trying to punish players because of the housing systems poor design. The absolute only thing that is going to solve the FFXIV housing crisis is instanced housing. No matter how many ways people try to limit, demolish, punish people who already own a home, there will never be enough plots for everyone. The answer is simple, allow people who want instanced housing to have it and the people who refuse can live in the neighborhoods that already exist.

It isn't that people don't want Instanced Housing but that we know the dev team simply won't implement. Whether due to coding constraints, their stubborn refusal to admit the ward system is awful or a combination of both, this has been a problem for years now and every single mention has only led to band-aid fixes and apologies from Yoshida.

[rainichan]

I doubt anyone denies people will find ways around whatever restrictions are implemented. The point is to make it increasingly more frustrating and difficult for them to accomplish that endeavor. Take the ever infamous duo on Mateus who own an entire ward to themselves after being Grandfathered in. Their whole stance was "well, nobody wanted them until Mateus became the new RP server. So too bad!" They don't have anywhere near the means to keep all those houses through multiple accounts, FCs and etc. Just taking away the Grandfather status immediately opens up 20+ plots on what is now one of the most populated servers. It's not much but is a definite start.

I don't disagree, but taking those avenues out as well since that has been the workaround for "1 fc 1 personal on one character per world" was instated. I know which couple you're talking about on Mateus, and I know SE's stance was mainly "well we don't want to tick off the players who are correct in saying that the housing wards were empty" because.... it's true, they were! That was when housing was still fairly empty on most servers, so I Get It, but also.... times have changed. The player's diatribe on how the "Balmung Rejects" coming in and complaining and taking all the housing was unnecessary, however. Taking out the grandfathering + looking at multiple houses owned by one person/one FC is where it needs to start. I get SE not wanting to accidentally punish someone who isn't related to a FC who has a bunch of Shells because there will always be that risk... but they need to do something instead of sitting on their hands.

And no, the people who own multiple service accounts? That's all they do. Get their alt accounts high enough to purchase a house, make a shell FC or personal, make the main the tenant if it's a personal, log in every so often to keep the house on the alt from going into auto-demo, and then go ham decorating their 30 houses. One of the big ones is on Gilgamesh, and I'm already inviting invoking the Beetlejuice just saying that tbh. They also had a whole website (I believe it was taken down) on how they weren't wrong for what they do, how housing is the only thing they enjoy about this game, and how they pay other people to make shell FCs to add into their "housing network". I wish I were joking.

[Pablomaldito]

People get around it, though. It's already 1 personal 1 FC per world: I have a personal, I inherited a FC house which means I can't get another house on any of my characters on Balmung.

Was that FC house actually purchased by one of your characters, and is that character still in the FC? If yes to both, then your characters indeed cannot purchase another house (except the one who bought the FC house, who can make a purchase for the purpose of relocation). However, if the answer to either of those questions is no, then you are free to create a FC on another character and have them buy another FC house on Balmung.