[Housing] 1 House Per Service Account. 1 FC Per Service Account.

[Seraphor]

Honestly, if Square put Aetheryte Plazas in every housing district and made sure a marketboard, repair NPC, and maybe a poetics exchange and even old content vendors were all within close proximity, I wonder if YoshiP would get these "living neighborhoods" he imagines are real.

They already have all of this besides the poetics vendors.

Every ward has a 'plaza' area, with marketboards and bells.
Your personal/FC aetheryte is your route in, with the inexpensive potential for multiple vendors including a mender.

The problem is most players don't even use their own houses. Half of them sit unfurnished, even the small FC ones which are just empty shells with a company chest and a mender inside. If you're not going to visit your own house, why would you bother looking at others and using it as a hub area?

[shadowclasper]

Our fc lucked into a large with 3 other bids, they desperately need to remove the ability of single players to own entire wards somehow

[Packetdancer]

Honestly, if Square put Aetheryte Plazas in every housing district and made sure a marketboard, repair NPC, and maybe a poetics exchange and even old content vendors were all within close proximity, I wonder if YoshiP would get these "living neighborhoods" he imagines are real.

The thing is, those neighborhoods might be real... but if they are, they aren't common.

I've mentioned this in other housing threads, but when I got my house (a couple of years ago now), my neighbors noticed the plot was no longer empty and came by to say hello. I got some decor as housewarming gifts, and we got to chatting.

And we ended up on each other's friends list, we had random "neighborhood roulette night" stuff when we were bored, etc. It was the thing Yoshi-P hoped for, at least in our little corner of the ward (for like six plots clustered close together).

So I get what they originally hoped for.

But my neighbors and I took it for granted, and as wards were added folks took the leap and transferred to get a medium or large house. And while my former neighbors are still on my friends list, I'm the last one left in our old neighborhood... and now my ward is as dead as any other.

And even though all of us miss it, we cannot get it back; the way the system works, there's no way we could ensure we all end up in the same neighborhood again.

The fact that where you get a house is dependent on luck as much as anything pretty much torpedos any hope someone might have of deliberately building such a neighborhood by finding a space with active folks who play around the same time they do. Until you solve that, you can't really expect there to be active, lively neighborhoods... and I don't think there's a good way to solve that under the current housing setup.

[LianaThorne]

They will be gone too in short order once the mediums/larges are fully gone since that will be all that's left. Just because there's some open now, doesn't mean they will stay that way. Not with how the lottery works. A lot of what remains now are plots freed up from relocations. Mediums and larges are the most desirable plots. Smalls are consolation prizes. It was the same with Ishgard housing. Mediums and larges were the first to go, and then the following lotteries saw all the smalls get bought up.

13000 houses aren't going to vanish overnight, which is the situation on Dynamis. There is way more supply than demand there which is why people are even mutli-owning. Again, if people really want a house that badly there is supply available. Gotta just go get it and stop being picky, sorry if that's blunt but it's the truth. If your current server and staying there/getting the specific size house in the specific spot you want no matter what is more important then youre doing it to yourself. Ya'll are choosing to bid against 30+ people rather than move FOR FREE and fight no one for a plot lol. Isn't any plot better than no plot?

[Seraphor]

13000 houses aren't going to vanish overnight, which is the situation on Dynamis. There is way more supply than demand there which is why people are even mutli-owning. Again, if people really want a house that badly there is supply available. Gotta just go get it and stop being picky, sorry if that's blunt but it's the truth. If your current server and staying there is more important then consider how much you actually want that house in the first place. Ya'll are choosing to bid against 30+ people rather than move and fight no one for a plot lol.

On Zodiark, so not the most congested but not the least either, every ward/subdivision currently has at least three free plots after the first round, with some, even Empyreum, being 50% empty. My own ward has a Medium and 2 Smalls free, with 0 bids currently. While my friend's Empyreum subdivision has at least 15 Smalls and a couple of mediums sitting empty.
Everyone who wants and can make use of a house can get one on Zodiark, if they're happy with a Small.
The problem is people don't want Smalls, and pretend that there are NO HOUSES available because they won't stoop to a Small.
There's a lot you can do with a Small, it's better than nothing.

[LianaThorne]

I think the point should be focused on RMT.
Why would any gil bot owners make such stupid mistake such as naming their FC with similar names? It's a huge flag for SE to investigate on.

If it's just a weird person who wants to own a whole neighborhood, SE could just contact the person and let them choose which one to keep.

I don't think putting more and more conditions for owning a house will get rid of RMT bots or solve the problem. It'll just limit players who can own a house.
I'm a legit player who doesn't care to do all contents to the current patch. I log in to enjoy the game and do what I want, not to be restricted like IRL. Sure, I can enjoy the game without a house, but more available contents mean more ways of having fun.

Having multiple houses does not always equal being into RMT. As I've said earlier, I know of several people across multiple DCs that own multiple houses or an entire ward and do not engage in RMT. They bought them up when supply outweighed demand, that's all.

[LianaThorne]

@OP

I can't agree with this, SE should do something about RMT and bots but there's no need to punish legit players.

1 house and 1 FC house per server is fine.

RMTs must abuse the fact that one character per server can own up to 2 properties total (private/FC), so if we can have 40 characters under a standard subscription RMTs could have up to 80 properties total but that is everyone's right.

What SE should do is scrutinize suspicious accounts that make too much gil taking into consideration how long they play, no human can play 24/7 without rest.

Agreed however I'm going to point out that it's not hard at all to make lots of gil in a short period of time. Gambling for example, a friend of mine pulled in 500m in one night just through deathroll. I've brought up market flipping which I can say from experience can also pull in hundreds of millions every week depending on where youre selling and what it is. Auctions are also pretty lucrative if you have an attractive character and a skill to sell.

You can't really attribute making tons of gil to someone just being a bot when there are legitimate methods in game for anyone to make loads of money off of. When people say it's braindead to make gil and we need more sinks, they aren't lying.

[LianaThorne]

On Zodiark, so not the most congested but not the least either, every ward/subdivision currently has at least three free plots after the first round, with some, even Empyreum, being 50% empty. My own ward has a Medium and 2 Smalls free, with 0 bids currently. While my friend's Empyreum subdivision has at least 15 Smalls and a couple of mediums sitting empty.
Everyone who wants and can make use of a house can get one on Zodiark, if they're happy with a Small.
The problem is people don't want Smalls, and pretend that there are NO HOUSES available because they won't stoop to a Small.
There's a lot you can do with a Small, it's better than nothing.

Gotta love threads where people talk about others being greedy when they're being greedy themselves at the same time. Either they want a specific plot or they want to rip plots away from honest players just because there "aren't enough people in the FC." Lol.

Again, gonna say it louder, THERE ARE PLOTS OPEN IN MASS QUANTITIES IN OTHER PLACES. Go get one.

If you don't want to move because you can't possibly be bothered to move to an underpopulated server, hop off of complaining about multi-owners then. You're doing nothing to actually combat the problem other than complain on here.

[LaylaTsarra]

People following the rules will not be penalized regardless of the sentiments of some especially in threads like this. SE needs to deal with THOSE breaking the spirit of the intent of one private and one FC per server.

It's been more than 4 years since the new rules were implemented and 6.1 brought nothing new to the table other than a lottery. Adventurers are still allowed to purchase homes on other servers and data centers that is not new.

Those who think that they will take those homes away from the community who have done that are dreaming it's not going to happen.

How they deal with users buying 8 FC's per server is the issue they seem to not have been able to deal with and is something they need to find a solution too. .

[LianaThorne]

People following the rules will not be penalized regardless of the sentiments of some especially in threads like this. SE needs to deal with THOSE breaking the spirit of the intent of one private and one FC per server.

It's been more than 4 years since the new rules were implemented and 6.1 brought nothing new to the table other than a lottery. Adventurers are still allowed to purchase homes on other servers and data centers that is not new.

Those who think that they will take those homes away from the community who had done that are dreaming it's not going to happen.

How they deal with users buying 8 FC's per server is the issue they seem to not have been able to deal with and is something they need to find a solution too. .

The solution is simple, move and buy up your own plot to take away the chance for a multi-owner to have it. They're not going to take away from people who have had houses for years, as you said. If everyone who wanted a house moved to Dynamis, problem solved. They would all sell out within the first month. Multi-owners can't take up more plots at that point and the demand will finally actually be greater than the supply. As it stands now, there aren't enough people to buy up the homes there and you're kidding yourself if you'd expect people to not buy up extra land at that point. I'm sure some of the people in this thread would if they had the opportunity. It's just a really tiring complaint at this point when there isn't an issue in underpopulated servers and their own could be solved by just moving.

There's also just the plain fact that the devs intentionally put the ability to own multiple houses in the game, so they want it. I have a feeling that the solution to the 8 FC conundrum would be a rework of that or the housing system itself, which wouldn't be worth the trouble or the reorganization needed for it to go smoothly.