[Housing] 1 House Per Service Account. 1 FC Per Service Account.

[ameliaw]

There's more than just Primal. I'm also skeptical that there are mediums and larges everywhere. There certainly won't be after the next round of bidding.

Feel free to create an alt and check out. I'll also check other DCs later - I doubt that the miraculous abundance of small houses is exclusive to Primal and Dynamis.

[Vahlnir]

Feel free to create an alt and check out. I'll also check other DCs later - I doubt that the miraculous abundance of small houses is exclusive to Primal and Dynamis.

They will be gone too in short order once the mediums/larges are fully gone since that will be all that's left. Just because there's some open now, doesn't mean they will stay that way. Not with how the lottery works. A lot of what remains now are plots freed up from relocations. Mediums and larges are the most desirable plots. Smalls are consolation prizes. It was the same with Ishgard housing. Mediums and larges were the first to go, and then the following lotteries saw all the smalls get bought up.

[Midareyukki]

I wouldn't consider that an abuse of the system or blatant greed over a limited resource. It's others who gobble up 4-5+ houses at a time that I think are an issue.

See, that's what I assume, and I understand the need for this thread. There is a supply and demand issue, and there are issues with the systems that have been put in place.

But if it obviously will be limited to 1 personal and 1 FC house, then yeah, it's going to be a bit more nuanced.

I don't own a venue house on NA, mind you. But I do want to in order to participate with RPing and make it a bit more believable (I want to roleplay as a fortune teller Astrologian, so the house would be an observatory\place of work). And I know several people are in such a situation.

But if that can be construed as an abuse of the system, then naturally I'll relent.

[Gemina]

If it were all up to me:

-One house per account
-Those who currently own multiple plots will face an extremely high property tax that basically forces them to relinquish all but one house.
-Larges are FC only
-Additional large plots will be added to each ward
-Private owners who currently own a large will face an extremely high property tax, but can downgrade to a medium or small, and be refunded 80% of the difference
-FCs who own multiple plots will face an extremely high property tax on each plot owned, and FC privileges will be suspended until they relinquish all but one house of their choosing
-Auto demolish will never again be suspended
-Players who currently own just one small or medium on their account will not face a property tax
-FCs who currently do not own a plot will be given priority on larges. FC will need to have been established for at least 90 days
-Players who do not own a plot and have not been in a FC for 90 days will get priority in lotteries
-Relocation suspended during lotteries. Players and FCs who own plots cannot participate in lotteries
-Relocation will resume the week following a lottery. Assuming there are open plots for them to relocate to.
-Relocation will require FCs/players to purchase another building permit.
-All furnishings from relinquished homes can be recovered from the residential caretaker after the lottery ends. For convenience, the items will be segregated by furnishing category.
-50% of original cost of relinquished plots will be refunded.

I know some of these are quite harsh. Especially for owners of multiple plots. That's the price to be paid for greed. I do not abide by players not being subjected to these rules in previous days, and it has everything to do with making the system fair for everyone whether you're a current owner, or not. If you had a shred of common courtesy, compassion for your fellow subscriber, and decency, then these new rules do not affect you whatsoever.

*gavel slams*

[Zebraoracle]

If it were all up to me:

-One house per account
-Those who currently own multiple plots will face an extremely high property tax that basically forces them to relinquish all but one house.
-Larges are FC only
-Additional large plots will be added to each ward
-Private owners who currently own a large will face an extremely high property tax, but can downgrade to a medium or small, and be refunded 80% of the difference
-FCs who own multiple plots will face an extremely high property tax on each plot owned, and FC privileges will be suspended until they relinquish all but one house of their choosing
-Auto demolish will never again be suspended
-Players who currently own just one small or medium on their account will not face a property tax
-FCs who currently do not own a plot will be given priority on larges. FC will need to have been established for at least 90 days
-Players who do not own a plot and have not been in a FC for 90 days will get priority in lotteries
-Relocation suspended during lotteries. Players and FCs who own plots cannot participate in lotteries
-Relocation will resume the week following a lottery. Assuming there are open plots for them to relocate to.
-Relocation will require FCs/players to purchase another building permit.
-All furnishings from relinquished homes can be recovered from the residential caretaker after the lottery ends. For convenience, the items will be segregated by furnishing category.
-50% of original cost of relinquished plots will be refunded.

I know some of these are quite harsh. Especially for owners of multiple plots. That's the price to be paid for greed. I do not abide by players not being subjected to these rules in previous days, and it has everything to do with making the system fair for everyone whether you're a current owner, or not. If you had a shred of common courtesy, compassion for your fellow subscriber, and decency, then these new rules do not affect you whatsoever.

*gavel slams*

I can generally agree with some of these, but the main thing I absolutely do not agree with is implementing a priority system that excludes players just because they're in an FC. That's an unnecessary penalty for someone who might not even have any say in the FC house outside of their own small personal room in the FC house.

[Gemina]

I can generally agree with some of these, but the main thing I absolutely do not agree with is implementing a priority system that excludes players just because they're in an FC. That's an unnecessary penalty for someone who might not even have any say in the FC house outside of their own small personal room in the FC house.

I completely understand where you are coming from, and I considered that before posting. However, I kept it intact because they still do have access to their own personal room within the FC house. Players who do not have an FC or personal plot currently don't have access to anything. As such, I have given these players top priority in the lottery.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Instead of making large plots FC only and adding more large plots to wards which would result in the layout having to be redesigned why not create FC wards that only have large plots and a new size above large that would look more like a shopping district rather than a residential zone?

[Gemina]

Instead of making large plots FC only and adding more large plots to wards which would result in the layout having to be redesigned why not create FC wards that only have large plots and a new size above large that would look more like a shopping district rather than a residential zone?

There is an element of unfairness there since the FCs that do not own any plots would get first dibs at the XX large plots in the new zones. However, I would not oppose placing all larges in FC only wards. That might even be necessary.

[Zebraoracle]

Honestly, if Square put Aetheryte Plazas in every housing district and made sure a marketboard, repair NPC, and maybe a poetics exchange and even old content vendors were all within close proximity, I wonder if YoshiP would get these "living neighborhoods" he imagines are real.

[kiagenwa]

I think the point should be focused on RMT.
Why would any gil bot owners make such stupid mistake such as naming their FC with similar names? It's a huge flag for SE to investigate on.

If it's just a weird person who wants to own a whole neighborhood, SE could just contact the person and let them choose which one to keep.

I don't think putting more and more conditions for owning a house will get rid of RMT bots or solve the problem. It'll just limit players who can own a house.
I'm a legit player who doesn't care to do all contents to the current patch. I log in to enjoy the game and do what I want, not to be restricted like IRL. Sure, I can enjoy the game without a house, but more available contents mean more ways of having fun.