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  1. #3391
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    No, I was replying to you. But I guess you couldn't see it. Nothing new here.



    I mean, you can take or leave the game as is and it's genre-norm features. I mean...everyone else already does.

    Game is far more successful without this feature than it would be with.
    This guy is just a troll at this point. Lurking. Nothing to contribute. Simply stirring the pot to keep the discord going
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  2. #3392
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Terrible argument. I do communicate on these forums. Just with people I don't find irritating.

    Not sure where the gender unlocking thing came from; I dont really care about that. I play Western MMOs like ESO where people cared about this, and eastern ones where they don't. Not my issue. That said, opening up fashion options encourages spending and isn't contrary to MMOs like the demand not to see people because your afraid of bikinis.
    You find conversing with certain people to be irritating, and that's perfectly within your rights, yet some people find tanks in bikinis to be irritating and suddenly they shouldn't be playing an MMO.

    You purposefully block people and repress their expression. You censor a social aspect of a social game if it does not suit your standards. But someone else censoring a social aspect of a social game that does suit your standards, well, that's just not okay, is it? ZephyrMenodora, the gatekeeper of what is and isn't allowed to occur in an MMO.

    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume that you're a troll. I hope for your own mental well being that you're just a troll. If not, there is a lot you need to sort out.
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  3. #3393
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    You find conversing with certain people to be irritating, and that's perfectly within your rights, yet some people find tanks in bikinis to be irritating and suddenly they shouldn't be playing an MMO.

    You purposefully block people and repress their expression. You censor a social aspect of a social game if it does not suit your standards. But someone else censoring a social aspect of a social game that does suit your standards, well, that's just not okay, is it? ZephyrMenodora, the gatekeeper of what is and isn't allowed to occur in an MMO.

    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume that you're a troll. I hope for your own mental well being that you're just a troll. If not, there is a lot you need to sort out.
    He is never going to give you a straight answer to this question, he has been asked many times.
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    Okay boomer.

  4. #3394
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    He is never going to give you a straight answer to this question, he has been asked many times.
    Yeah, I know. He can contradict himself 5 times in 3 sentences and still act as if he is the most superior intellectual on this forum. At this point, I just feel like everything he says is discredited, as he's probably already said the opposite before in this thread alone.
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  5. #3395
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    Yeah, I know. He can contradict himself 5 times in 3 sentences and still act as if he is the most superior intellectual on this forum. At this point, I just feel like everything he says is discredited, as he's probably already said the opposite before in this thread alone.
    I don't think you know what a contradiction is, nor have you discredtied me whatsoever. Nor has anyone in this thread who thinks they have. There is a reason the game is the way it is, without this option. None of your complaining or patting yourselves on the back will change that, nor will it ever. But hey, if your little mob thinks you accomplished something, you didn't. You still have to look at all those glamors! After three years of talking in circles no less! LOL!

    Online forums are not the same thing as looking at other players in an MMO. It's not that hard to distinguish. Choosing not to listen to someone's words is not the same thing as forcing them into attire they did not choose to wear. If you can't see that, your even less intelligent than I already presumed you were. The actual equivalent to choosing not to read/listen on the visual spectrum is looking the other way. Not changing someone's clothing.

    I also chose to stop responding to some things because I already answered them, some points dozens of times in this very thread, and I don't see the point of repeating myself to those with no critical thinking abilities or reading comprehension skills.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 01-25-2023 at 12:29 PM.

  6. #3396
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I don't think you know what a contradiction is, nor have you discredtied me whatsoever. Nor has anyone in this thread who thinks they have. There is a reason the game is the way it is, without this option. None of your complaining or patting yourselves on the back will change that, nor will it ever. But hey, if your little mob thinks you accomplished something, you didn't. You still have to look at all those glamors! After three years of talking in circles no less! LOL!

    Online forums are not the same thing as being in game in an MMO. It's not that hard to distinguish. Choosing not to listen to someone's words is not the same thing as forcing them into attire they did not choose to wear. If you can't see that, your even less intelligent than I already presumed you were.

    I also chose to stop responding to some things because I already answered them, some points dozens of times in this very thread, and I don't see the point of repeating myself to those with no critical thinking abilities or reading comprehension skills.
    You literally contradict yourself all the time.

    You're okay with people using a mod to hide glamours, but not an in-game feature to hide glamours. You're okay with censoring others but not with being censored. You're okay with freedom of expression but not if someone is saying something you don't like. You say if people don't follow the "rules" of an MMO, they shouldn't play, all while not following your own "rules". You said that no one is saying "conform or leave" yet when called out that that is exactly what you were saying, you said "yes, and I'll stand by that". You claim you keep repeating yourself and everyone else lacks intellegence to understand, but you can't even keep your own opinions straight. You want to claim I don't know what contradition means? You're really going to insult my intelligence when you keep saying that a client side feature that only effects the client would somehow disrupt your game play and force you into a mold?

    You keep going around in circles giving non-answers and then turn to insults as if that makes you a superior being. You talk down on everyone you reply to, act as if they are beneath you, but you haven't been able to give a single, sensical answer. Every time someone gives you an response that proves your statements are false, you just say, "No, that doesn't happen in MMOs. I've played MMOs for decades". You also either willingly or unwillingly cannot see basic comparisons between things you said would never happen ever in MMOs and things that already have.

    Take a break, dude. Sort out your mind.
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    I don't see why this needs to be an in-game feature. Would personally prefer if we could hide people completely (in cities mostly) because that would be actually helpful, you know, like other games.
    Was wondering why this even got to 300+ pages but after taking a quick look at it & the tags I understand now.
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  8. #3398
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    You literally contradict yourself all the time.

    You're okay with people using a mod to hide glamours, but not an in-game feature to hide glamours. You're okay with censoring others but not with being censored. You're okay with freedom of expression but not if someone is saying something you don't like. You say if people don't follow the "rules" of an MMO, they shouldn't play, all while not following your own "rules". You said that no one is saying "conform or leave" yet when called out that that is exactly what you were saying, you said "yes, and I'll stand by that". You claim you keep repeating yourself and everyone else lacks intellegence to understand, but you can't even keep your own opinions straight. You want to claim I don't know what contradition means? You're really going to insult my intelligence when you keep saying that a client side feature that only effects the client would somehow disrupt your game play and force you into a mold?

    You keep going around in circles giving non-answers and then turn to insults as if that makes you a superior being. You talk down on everyone you reply to, act as if they are beneath you, but you haven't been able to give a single, sensical answer. Every time someone gives you an response that proves your statements are false, you just say, "No, that doesn't happen in MMOs. I've played MMOs for decades". You also either willingly or unwillingly cannot see basic comparisons between things you said would never happen ever in MMOs and things that already have.

    Take a break, dude. Sort out your mind.
    I already explained that mods and official support are not the same thing. It's not a contradiction. Try again. You simply lack the ability to look at anything with nuance, making conversing with you pointless. But yes, I do find myself just a tad brighter than you. I answered everything, but you lack the ability to process what I said, so have said this nonsense. I'm not sure if you have muddled my responses with that of other posters, but I've been consistent in that if people don't want to play an MMO with other people unless they can exert that level of control over them, they can leave. Game's been doing just fine without the miniscule number of people who can't handle a bikini skin.

    You think it's fine to call me a "troll" because you disagree with me and can't understand what I'm saying, but don't like being insulted in return. Maybe calling people names is your coping mechanism. No need to apologize, I have such a low opinion of you from these interactions from you I will take this as a compliment. Since you've exhausted my patience, and I see little point of further communication, I won't be replying to you again.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 01-25-2023 at 01:27 PM.

  9. #3399
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I already explained that mods and official support are not the same thing. It's not a contradiction. Try again. You simply lack the ability to look at anything with nuance, making conversing with you pointless. But yes, I do find myself just a tad brighter than you. I answered everything, but you lack the ability to process what I said, so have said this nonsense. Since you've exhausted my patience, and I see little point of further communication, I won't be replying to you again.
    Sure, mods and official support are not the same thing but the features would do the same thing. Just like hiding glamour doesn't stop you from using glamour. But I'm the one lacking the ability to process what is being said. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Keep on trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    You literally contradict yourself all the time.

    You're okay with people using a mod to hide glamours, but not an in-game feature to hide glamours. You're okay with censoring others but not with being censored. You're okay with freedom of expression but not if someone is saying something you don't like. You say if people don't follow the "rules" of an MMO, they shouldn't play, all while not following your own "rules". You said that no one is saying "conform or leave" yet when called out that that is exactly what you were saying, you said "yes, and I'll stand by that". You claim you keep repeating yourself and everyone else lacks intellegence to understand, but you can't even keep your own opinions straight. You want to claim I don't know what contradition means? You're really going to insult my intelligence when you keep saying that a client side feature that only effects the client would somehow disrupt your game play and force you into a mold?

    You keep going around in circles giving non-answers and then turn to insults as if that makes you a superior being. You talk down on everyone you reply to, act as if they are beneath you, but you haven't been able to give a single, sensical answer. Every time someone gives you an response that proves your statements are false, you just say, "No, that doesn't happen in MMOs. I've played MMOs for decades". You also either willingly or unwillingly cannot see basic comparisons between things you said would never happen ever in MMOs and things that already have.

    Take a break, dude. Sort out your mind.
    You forgot the contradiction where he said he was done with this topic 20 pages ago and yet is still here.
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    Last edited by Joven; 01-25-2023 at 02:09 PM.


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