[Housing] 1 House Per Service Account. 1 FC Per Service Account.

[LianaThorne]

It has started to spiral out of control.

People owning entire wards has existed for as long as housing has, And its about time SQE step up and take responsibility for the atrocious system that allows this to happen.

Every single server on Materia, Dynamis and many of the NEW housing wards on older servers, are being bought up by the Airship bot community.

These bots make people ridiculous amounts of Gil per month, some even have enough to hit a Gil cap every single month.

Where does all this Gil go? RMT, Where else could it go? By now some of them would have Hundreds of Gil caps.

SQE need to flat out restrict what people can own per service account, housing is already a massively contested market, and grandfathering in people that have abused the system for years is not a good look.

People that own Multi FCs/Personals should be made to choose ONE of each, and get refunded the base cost of the rest. And allow these houses to go back on the market for other people to buy.

TLR
Remove the ability for people to own hundreds of houses.

I find it kind of funny that you assume it's all the airship community. While you're not wrong they do have a stake in some wards, it's definitely not all. The few people that I do know of who have multiple houses don't engage in RMT or help support it, they simply wanted multiple houses for just that reason: to have multiple houses. That's it.

The system in place already forbids you from having more than 1 private and 1 FC. Inheritance is an entirely separate issue which is what the focus of this should be. However, I don't agree with removing inheritance for the simple reason of, what happens to FCs when the leader wants to step down, pass off the reins to an Officer and then can't because they can't transfer the FC house to them? You'll have people being forced into being permanent FC leaders, which is absolutely not fair.

Square is also not going to strip certain people of their houses and intentionally cause a massive riot. The only fair thing to do would be to take away *everyones* homes and re-roll every single ward and district. I don't see it ending positively otherwise.

I highly doubt they'd do much at all though considering they already allow us to multi-buy houses in general. You just have to go to different worlds.

[Stormpeaks]

Here we go with this again, it's not happening, move on already.

On top of that, you're on Materia, the most dead datacenter, of course people will do that, there's no one else to buy them. I remember visiting one of the materia worlds for the fun of it, that poor guy had been alone in his mist ward for about 6 months, he was the only one in mist 35.

Also multiowning is not agaisnt TOS.

Another thing, mulitowning does not mean RMT, stop trolling.

[LianaThorne]

Here we go with this again, it's not happening, move on already.

On top of that, you're on Materia, the most dead datacenter, of course people will do that, there's no one else to buy them. I remember visiting one of the materia worlds for the fun of it, that poor guy had been alone in his mist ward for about 6 months, he was the only one in mist 35.

Also multiowning is not agaisnt TOS.

That's my thought on it ngl.

If there's an actual housing shortage on your server then fair enough but if you're on a server/DC that still has houses sitting abandoned after a year....girl lol. You really can't blame people for buying up real estate at that point since no one else is.

[Stormpeaks]

That's my thought on it ngl.

If there's an actual housing shortage on your server then fair enough but if you're on a server/DC that still has houses sitting abandoned after a year.....girl lol.

I actually legitimately went on the materia worlds because I was bored, 8 wards out of 10 had less than 3 houses on them or around that number, with an unbelievable amount of larges open, but apparently it would be better if they were just empty forever as no one is coming to materia anymore, that datacenter is on life support

[LianaThorne]

I actually legitimately went on the materia worlds because I was bored, 8 wards out of 10 had less than 3 houses on them or around that number, with an unbelievable amount of larges open, but apparently it would be better if they were just empty forever as no one is coming to materia anymore, that datacenter is on life support

I have a mansion there, it's been one of 3 bought plots in the ward for like...2-3 months now. I'll be pulling my alt out of there within the next day or two because there's no point even playing there atm.

[Amenara]

I would be ok with this restriction if all my characters I made were automatically tenants to my house (Big doubt on that as we can't even mail things to alts in 2023). That being said, I don't think it's cool to punish players who played within SE's rules when they bought their houses. Maybe if SE didn't have easily exploited loopholes it wouldn't have happened.

[Moonsprite]

Do you know what "instanced housing" actually is? Can you describe "instanced housing" and how it will let people have houses they can customize the external and internal spaces of that are shared with the world?

Because if you think that, you don't understand what "instanced housing" actually is.

Not to mention it probably wouldn't work with the back-end they have in FFXIV. If it did, they'd have done it by now.

The OP change is at least working within the existing system while trying to fix some of the supply issues by breaking hoarder gaming of the system issues.

When I say instanced housing I mean a house with a yard, no neighborhood. They added island sanctuaries so they could have added instanced housing. I understand technically the neighborhoods are instanced. The idea that they would have already if they could is not true. They created a fully immersive island with crops, livestock, buildings, etc They can’t make an instanced house by itself?

The real issue is they want the neighborhoods so the players feel like a community. It doesn’t work that way anyway. I have lived in the same spot for over 6 years. I rarely see even one person for months in my own ward. My server is considered congested too. My FC, we only see each other most the time. It’s been weeks since I’ve seen another person there too. So these immersive communities don’t exist in most wards and it’s just causing stress and frustration for players who want a house. If enough people say they want it then they’ll probably do it. What I dislike is people targeting each other instead of the system itself. It’s a bad system and island sanctuaries prove they can do it, they just didn’t want to.

Edit: I’d like to add that instanced neighborhoods rather than houses could be a sub incentive. It’s quite possible that’s a motivating factor. If people have instanced houses instead, there is no need for demolition, no demolition and players might not stay subbed. Before people defend that I’d like to remind them we pay for retainers just for inventory space.

[Pablomaldito]

Do you know what "instanced housing" actually is? Can you describe "instanced housing" and how it will let people have houses they can customize the external and internal spaces of that are shared with the world?

Instanced housing is simply housing that is not persistently loaded in the game servers, and is only needed when entered by a player. Apartments and all house interiors are already instanced. What this game needs to implement for instanced housing are instanced exteriors and a directory from which to access them, like apartments.

This could be implemented without having to demolish the wards. Players would simply choose between a ward house, which has the advantage of having an exterior in a persistent neighborhood, or an instanced house, which would offer the player the choice of size without competition and perhaps immunity from auto demolish.

[Johners]

Do you know what "instanced housing" actually is? Can you describe "instanced housing" and how it will let people have houses they can customize the external and internal spaces of that are shared with the world?

Because if you think that, you don't understand what "instanced housing" actually is.

Not to mention it probably wouldn't work with the back-end they have in FFXIV. If it did, they'd have done it by now.

The OP change is at least working within the existing system while trying to fix some of the supply issues by breaking hoarder gaming of the system issues.

Instanced housing should be like New World, a generic appearance from the outside and then your (or someone else's house) once you go inside. Apartments already work like that but could apply it further.

• Rather than 30 housing wards, you have one housing zone for each area
• Each housing zone is populated with generic, lore/zone friendly exteriors
• You walk up to a placard, say plot 1 and then enter the version of the house you wish to see
• The interior/exterior is then contained within an instance
• The exterrior is blocked in by invisible walls and you interact with the gate to leave

[Seraphor]

Instanced housing wouldn't have customisable exteriors.
So then... what is the point of an instanced house?

Just expand the apartments system to include larger interior options, and an additional instanced external 'balcony/terrace' option. This would give the player exactly the same resources, without having to dance around the magical house that has 10,000 different interiors and a crowd of people always outside it queuing up to get into their version of it's insides.