Has anyone quit healing?

[Reinha]

Queuing into content without a party of friends is a test of my decision to quit healing. I'd estimate there's about an 80%+ chance that any healer I get in a roulette is going to be godawful at this game. I don't mean "hurr hurr look at this scrub healer only casting Holy 10 times in this pull what a noob" bad. I mean standing in one spot. Casting Cure when the tank gets to 95% HP. Making sure Medica 2 is running when one of the DPS takes 10% of their HP in damage. Maybe casting ONE Holy during a single, single-pulled trash pack. Standing around waiting for damage in boss fights. It can't be this hard to see how little damage goes out in this game. It just can't.

Queuing in DF as any role alone is a goddamn nightmare. Queue as DNC and you get some glue sniffer DNC that dance partners the healer. Queue as melee and you get a healer that Rescues you for no reason whatsoever and feels proud about it too. Queue as a healer and you get a tank that gets a panic attack fighting 3 mobs.

[ForteNightshade]

I'd just like to imagine most tankbusters outside of extremes and savage making those toy sqeaky noises whenever they hit someone. Most times they won't even die as a dps or healer. Just imagine if those got mitigated: health doesn't move. I think it is pretty telling though when, for the sake of time, i queue as healer only to get a queue moving and not to actually be a "healer" with the idea of healing as a primary. I chunk out more damage than some dps do just spamming one button in trash mobs as Sage.

Halone have mercy on my soul when it dumps me into an ARR leveling dungeon. Can't even aoe until the last two. Damage taken just doesn't exist in most.

Considering tanks can solo every single dungeon boss in Endwalker, and most can solo a good chunk of Shadowbringers, it highlights just how little damage they take. Fortunately, I don't often get the pure healer but on the occasion I do it stands out just how completely useless they are.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Queuing into content without a party of friends is a test of my decision to quit healing. I'd estimate there's about an 80%+ chance that any healer I get in a roulette is going to be godawful at this game. I don't mean "hurr hurr look at this scrub healer only casting Holy 10 times in this pull what a noob" bad. I mean standing in one spot. Casting Cure when the tank gets to 95% HP. Making sure Medica 2 is running when one of the DPS takes 10% of their HP in damage. Maybe casting ONE Holy during a single, single-pulled trash pack. Standing around waiting for damage in boss fights. It can't be this hard to see how little damage goes out in this game. It just can't.

Came back to re-read your post right there once again because I'm feeling exactly as you've described after getting out from daily roulette p6n as a WHM, paired with another WHM. It makes me wonder what is exactly going on in their mind when they pump out Asylum+Plenary+Lilybell+Medica II+Rapture just to handle a single raidwide on top of always topping every single little scratches with more Medica IIs. To add insult to the injury, they typed "WHM??" about 70% into the encounter, probably because I choose to only heal very minimally a.k.a. coincidental Assizes, that one Lilybell I dropped, and raised somebody which they also overwrote by hardcasting (do you not see that raise icon??? I raised that RDM 5s before your hardcast ends???).

I just gave them a "?" in chat and nothing else happens afterward.

/rantend

[Allegor]

That's why I never bother with Medica II when doing roulettes, it seems nobody knows what a heal over time is.

That said, the opposite is also true: healers that absolutely don't heal unless you're already popping invuln because they're too busy casting 111111111

[ASkellington]

That's why I never bother with Medica II when doing roulettes, it seems nobody knows what a heal over time is.

Mmm. The only reason why I swear we don't have a prominent HoT healer. Then again AST exist and I swear to the Twelve people don't know what Earthly Star, Exaltation, Macrocosmos or Excog from SCH do either.

[yotsuffy]

Please, bring WHM back.
I Miss her.

Stage of grief: acceptance.

I love my miqo'te but my lala was special.

Time to move on.

[Renathras]

No, I haven't quit. I like supporting and helping my team and dislike damage rotations. I prefer reactive combat with active decision making not rote combat.

I won't ever quit healing unless they make "healers" into "dpsers". At that point, there's no healer to quit. I'd either quit the game or, if I did not, swap to whatever the most support oriented, least "dps rotation" DPS class (probably SMN, maybe RDM) is, or to a tank if there was one that actually had a lot of party support options that were viable...which there really isn't since Clemency is a no-no. I like GNB part-time but don't know that I'd want to main it. Maybe WAR, I dunno.

But yeah, I haven't quit healing, I like healing. As long as healers aren't turned into DPSers - as long as at least ONE isn't - I'll keep healing because it's what I actually love in MMOs and games in general. Healing, Support, and in games that allow for it (MMOs tend not to), Marksman/Scout/Sniper.

[Mesarthim]

I won't ever quit healing unless they make "healers" into "dpsers".

Is that not already the case?

You just do it with less buttons, often spamming the same one.

[Renathras]

Is that not already the case?

You just do it with less buttons, often spamming the same one.

No, it is not the case. Just some people have convinced themselves it is and go to great lengths to convince everyone else it is.

Casting a damage spell isn't what makes one a damage dealer anymore than someone borderline obese running into their house when being chased by a wasp doesn't make that person a runner or athlete. The focus of Healers in FFXIV right now is healing. Again, despite some people working very hard to convince everyone else otherwise as they've convinced themselves. The focus is to provide healing. With some Healers, this is much more direct and with others more passive, but if your party is dying because you couldn't be bothered to stop casting Glare/Broil/Malefic/Dosis long enough to heal them, then you have failed in your Role.

If a RDM or PLD doesn't cast Vercure or Clemency on someone, they aren't failing in their Role, since their Role isn't Healer.

If a Healer doesn't cast GCD and/or oGCD heals on people and they die, they are failing in their Role.

As much as the "most of my GCDs are damage spells" is prevalent, the focus of the Role is still on healing your party. The kits are even designed to NOT emphasis damage spells to further point to this truth as the design goal. The only reason you cast your damage spell more than anything is because we have so many oGCDs and they're so powerful you don't need to cast healing GCDs instead. But even the most ardent Glarespammer, if doing their job correctly, is weaving oGCD heals between their casts. Which were specifically reduced to 1.5 sec on all Healers to allow this.

Just as running from wasp doesn't make one a runner, casting a damage spell isn't what makes one a dpser.

The focus of DPSers is on their damage rotation and doing damage, nothing else. Anything that takes away from damage must be amazing utility designed to further damage or mitigate damage reduction. Many don't even have support abilities at all. And their toolkits are unambiguously focused on making their damage dealing front and center as the crux of it all.

Not so with Healers, whose damage spells are just kinda...there.

This isn't to say Healers don't, can't, or shouldn't do damage. But it isn't the focus of their Jobs, kits, or Role.

[Amenara]

When most/all your GCDs are spent on DPS spells, in my opinion you are a DPSer. If you are almost primarily healing your party through oGCDs to me it is your secondary role to heal. I think it's just a difference in opinion though. I will agree that healer dps spells are just kind of there as there was no thought by SE in what to do with them so they just kinda tacked it on, made every healer dps the same with a different colored spell and moved on.