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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    HOWEVER, what people do is split off into Shell FCs to get multiple housing, or just... buy multiple service accounts to horde houses (I'm looking at a couple of very specific individuals). Imagine spending hundreds every month to horde virtual houses because "bUt I lIkE tO dEcOrAtE" yeah, so would plenty of other people. I would prefer SE look at the fact that people are getting around housing limits by doing that and pulling houses off of them, but they won't because it's money. (imagine an upside down smiley here, the forums don't like to display it, sadge)
    I doubt anyone denies people will find ways around whatever restrictions are implemented. The point is to make it increasingly more frustrating and difficult for them to accomplish that endeavor. Take the ever infamous duo on Mateus who own an entire ward to themselves after being Grandfathered in. Their whole stance was "well, nobody wanted them until Mateus became the new RP server. So too bad!" They don't have anywhere near the means to keep all those houses through multiple accounts, FCs and etc. Just taking away the Grandfather status immediately opens up 20+ plots on what is now one of the most populated servers. It's not much but is a definite start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    Remind me again why people don’t want instanced housing, but come up with ideas like OP? I wish people would stop trying to punish players because of the housing systems poor design. The absolute only thing that is going to solve the FFXIV housing crisis is instanced housing. No matter how many ways people try to limit, demolish, punish people who already own a home, there will never be enough plots for everyone. The answer is simple, allow people who want instanced housing to have it and the people who refuse can live in the neighborhoods that already exist.
    It isn't that people don't want Instanced Housing but that we know the dev team simply won't implement. Whether due to coding constraints, their stubborn refusal to admit the ward system is awful or a combination of both, this has been a problem for years now and every single mention has only led to band-aid fixes and apologies from Yoshida.
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I doubt anyone denies people will find ways around whatever restrictions are implemented. The point is to make it increasingly more frustrating and difficult for them to accomplish that endeavor. Take the ever infamous duo on Mateus who own an entire ward to themselves after being Grandfathered in. Their whole stance was "well, nobody wanted them until Mateus became the new RP server. So too bad!" They don't have anywhere near the means to keep all those houses through multiple accounts, FCs and etc. Just taking away the Grandfather status immediately opens up 20+ plots on what is now one of the most populated servers. It's not much but is a definite start.
    I don't disagree, but taking those avenues out as well since that has been the workaround for "1 fc 1 personal on one character per world" was instated. I know which couple you're talking about on Mateus, and I know SE's stance was mainly "well we don't want to tick off the players who are correct in saying that the housing wards were empty" because.... it's true, they were! That was when housing was still fairly empty on most servers, so I Get It, but also.... times have changed. The player's diatribe on how the "Balmung Rejects" coming in and complaining and taking all the housing was unnecessary, however. Taking out the grandfathering + looking at multiple houses owned by one person/one FC is where it needs to start. I get SE not wanting to accidentally punish someone who isn't related to a FC who has a bunch of Shells because there will always be that risk... but they need to do something instead of sitting on their hands.

    And no, the people who own multiple service accounts? That's all they do. Get their alt accounts high enough to purchase a house, make a shell FC or personal, make the main the tenant if it's a personal, log in every so often to keep the house on the alt from going into auto-demo, and then go ham decorating their 30 houses. One of the big ones is on Gilgamesh, and I'm already inviting invoking the Beetlejuice just saying that tbh. They also had a whole website (I believe it was taken down) on how they weren't wrong for what they do, how housing is the only thing they enjoy about this game, and how they pay other people to make shell FCs to add into their "housing network". I wish I were joking.
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