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  1. #3171
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    Eisi's Avatar
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    Eiserne Sternschnuppe
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    How about an option to hide other players in general, or turn lalafells into other races? Remember that Lalafells are a nuisance, even immoral in the eyes of many players, just like skimpy glam. If others decide they don't want to see your lalafell, that's their choice. Same with other races, what if you are offended by Hrothgars? You should be able to customize your gaming experience. A Hrothgar player can still play their furry char, nothing is taken from them.

    There should be an option to default mounts to chocobos as well. I think most mounts in this game are eye cancer. Also I don't like it when other players "express" their rare titles and would like to be able to replace them with generic options. It's frankly embarrassing having to endure other people's ridiculous attempts to kind of prove e-status by way of titles.

    I understand wanting to not share in a sort of public space in an MMO and instead make it fit your own worldview. It should function like a blacklist though, that way you can still enjoy those people's glam (etc.) which you deem appropriate.
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  2. #3172
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    Ryutaro Mori
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    Yes, but I cannot fathom why just the thought of not being seen riles people up so much. I should clarify that I do not feel the need for this feature myself. I like looking at glamours for inspiration and I am able to ignore the ones that make me roll my eyes. But when it comes down to it, while this is a game, an MMO, as people like to remind others, everyone playing it is a real person. With real thoughts, feelings, likes, dislikes. So just like the reality outside of the game, people are allowed to have their own individual values in the game. This contrast of values does not have to impede on each other. People will still be able to express themselves, just not to the ones who don't want to be expressed to. This is called mutual respect. Wanna dress a Hrothgar in a bikini? Fine. Don't want to see it? Fine. Both get to do what they choose. Expression goes both ways. It's not about favouring the side you are on, but respecting the side you don't necessarily agree with or understand.
    The one side is just using the features available to them in-game. It's not exactly a sign of '' respect '' if you so nobly and humbly agree of their use of the in-game features to dress as they will, AS LONG AS you don't have to look at them. What kind of respect is that lmao. This whole discussion is just absurd.

    If we are allowing self-censorship options in game because '' players should have all tools to customize their experience, and people should respect others values and whatnot '' then I think it's only fair that we also finally get a greenlight from SE to allow all type of character modding as well. That is the only way to go about it. That is actually '' respecting both sides '' and whatnot. I'd be annoyed if SE allows one type of customization of other players client side, but not the other.
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  3. #3173
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Wow. Just wow. The level of narcissism
    Narcissism is more in line with the need to be recognized and noticed by the general population. To stand out like “hey, random, acknowledge me”.

    Just saying

    Wow. Just wow. I imagine your head just exploding as you mash your keys in anger over someone who doesn’t care about your fashion choice in a video game
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  4. #3174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I imagine your head just exploding as you mash your keys in anger over someone who doesn’t care about your fashion choice in a video game
    I mean you do care.

    Edit: I was mistaken, you do not care.
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    Last edited by Eisi; 01-20-2023 at 05:10 AM. Reason: Made an error

  5. #3175
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    Adiah Highborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Wow. Just wow. The level of narcissism and lack of understanding of Human nature being presented here by many of you is beyond the pale. Yes, Human beings in general DO have a need to express an identity to others. It is built in to Human nature. It is the primary means by which people establish their place in society. Taking that away from them is indeed an attack upon them. Just like in real life, if you don't like how people are presenting themselves you can just ignore them. To want to strip them of that expression is EXTREMELY self centered. It may not hurt you to do so but it DOES hurt them. Like it or not, there are 8 billion other Human beings on this planet besides you and you are going to have to accept the fact that you share space with them, regardless of whether or not you approve of how they look. The same applies (but to a much smaller scale) for FFXIV. At any rate, I have said my piece and it has become abundantly clear to me that there are a significant number of people among you that literally can not seem to comprehend just how wrong what you are asking for, is. Thus it is time for me to bow out. No sense beating one's head against a brick wall.
    Having control over your own game experience is so extremely wrong and violent. I definitely understand your rage. But forcing your own values on someone else and exclaiming that if they do not want to see it, they are actively harming you? Well, now that's just dandy. I can get behind that. /s
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  6. #3176
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    I mean you do care.
    Follow the thread. I actually do not. I’m all for glamours. I believe if people are not they should be able to opt out.

    Good try though but follow along
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  7. #3177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Follow the thread. I actually do not. I’m all for glamours. I believe if people are not they should be able to opt out.

    Good try though but follow along
    Then who are you talking about here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I imagine your head just exploding as you mash your keys in anger over someone who doesn’t care about your fashion choice in a video game
    Who doesn't care? I mean if it's not you and not the people who want to rid themselves of other people's glam, why even make this statement at all?

    Nice try though.

    Edit: You were just attacking the person against the feature, I understand now.
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    Last edited by Eisi; 01-20-2023 at 05:11 AM.

  8. #3178
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    Denji's Avatar
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    it's rare that I'll openly say a thread is entirely pointless but in this case it is.

    there's no way square is going to agree to... not make money. full stop. they're a company, we exist under capitalism and people are willing to spend anywhere from a few dozen to hundreds or even thousands of bucks to make themselves look the way they wish. cashshop glams and fantasia sales would probably take a significant hit. i wouldn't be surprised that if someone employed by square were to even suggest this that they'd be laughed out of the room by a bunch of executives and managers who'd just assume it was a joke.
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    Last edited by Denji; 01-20-2023 at 04:58 AM. Reason: typos

  9. #3179
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Again, mods are not supported. Nor are they discussed in game, or photos of them allowed on official forums and community channels.

    Character customization and presentation has been a core aspect of MMOs since the 90s. It's why character creators exist. Why things like glamors and dyes and cosmetics are an increasingly large part of the MMO experience. Whether you are a fashionista or a hard-core raider that AFKs in town so people can inspect your leet uber-raid weapon, you are controlling your appearance to others in the shared game world.

    Mods existing doesn't change that I maintain control over how my character presents in the world for the vast majority of players, and this is protected by the Devs and official rules. Modders can't send me screenshots of my character looking different, make comments in the game about how they made my character look, etc. This has been core to the social aspect of MMOs forever, and removing this feature would be a very bad move.

    I don't know if people just enjoy being contrarian or antisocial, but I maintain this should never happen and probably won't, given the genre this is.
    Please stop hiding behind the fact this will never happen and truly answer this question. Say in a world where you had a magic wand and YoshiP said with a flick of your wrist you can add this option in the settings. Are you telling me you would say no because it would increase the amount of people that have open access to using it, but you can turn a blind eye to mods since they are not prevalent? You know if you can look past mods for various reasons, you know you can do it regarding a feature right?

    Also, you greatly overestimate GM's enforcement of mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  10. #3180
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Wow. Just wow. The level of narcissism and lack of understanding of Human nature being presented here by many of you is beyond the pale. Yes, Human beings in general DO have a need to express an identity to others. It is built in to Human nature. It is the primary means by which people establish their place in society.
    So, you need to be validated by other human beings to feel secure in yourself? I suppose that does go in line with why you feel the need to force your glamour onto unwilling participants. Those who ask for the option to ignore your vain glamour parading are those who would not give you that said validation that you crave in the first place. It would change nothing for you. You'd still be able to flaunt yourself in front of those who care about that sort of thing and you wouldn't know about those who can't see your latest glamour of the day.
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