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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by tachi View Post
    Was DL's D.ring really 1%? I killed him 4-5 times in FFXI and saw 2 drop. I was /random off by a few points on the 2nd drop =/ oh well I didn't main PLD often enough anyway.
    Defending Ring =/= Shadow Ring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratharn View Post
    Defending Ring =/= Shadow Ring

    Lmfao. GG...
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    it's rare item so the drop rate very low = right thing
    if drop rate high ... it just common item.

    I remembered that when I played Ragnarok online, some of the rare item in game ( like boss card ) is like 0.00x% drop rate =='
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    Despite WoW being a dirty word, here we go.

    I am not so much for big fat piece tokens dropping (like a single token dropping to exchange for a head piece), however after a lot of thought I've come to believe more and more that the Justice Point and Valor Point system is one of the most well-done reward systems in an MMO.

    To those who do not know how it works, I'll explain.

    Both points are essentially a type of currency rewarded for either killing bosses or beating a dungeon. Valor Points are the higher value of the two, and you could only receive so many in a week while you could continually grind up Justice Points. Each point allowed you to buy high-end gear, but Justice Points would buy your entry-level armor and Valor Points bought your higher end pieces.


    Now, if you wanted to apply this system to FFXIV in a way I think might be more interesting, you could have a type of point that would be received for beating all types of enemies in a dungeon (IE trash mobs), and then have a special type of point rewarded for beating a boss. Furthermore if you achieved a speed run, you could be rewarded a larger amount of points, or you could make the high-tier points only rewarded for completing speed runs, etc. These high tier points could then be spent on the Darklight pieces the players wanted, and the players would be rewarded for their time when they came on a run and not rewarded if they sat out. The rewards would more appropriately reflect the amount of work put in by a player.

    I'm more than open to the idea that there are several tiers of this so that players achieving speed runs or special conditions gain access to gear that can't be bought through points obtained only through killing trash or beating a boss without extra effort. But I believe this system would heavily benefit the game and make players feel much more rewarded for their time and efforts. Furthermore, it would allow multiple members of the group to essentially gain rewards at the same times and gear up at an equal pace, making it less likely that members of a group would be left behind in gear simply because of bad luck with a random number generator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tachi View Post
    Was DL's D.ring really 1%? I killed him 4-5 times in FFXI and saw 2 drop. I was /random off by a few points on the 2nd drop =/ oh well I didn't main PLD often enough anyway.
    I think it's a 5% drop (about same as p harpe / v ring), 2 out of 4-5 is indeed lucky though I know LS who got it on first drop.
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    Instead of dropping the DL gear just have a DL helm token drop(same drop rate) which could be turned in for any of the DL head pieces and head/chest is required for the gear that takes up both slots. Right now its fucking retarded after getting ~25 drops and not a single mage piece. GG SE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    So to you 'work' is mindlessly repeating something umpteen times. Actually what it means is that people get fed up with not getting any drops and the game turns into a small niche inhabited by players prepared to spend days and weeks and months getting NOTHING due to asininely low drop rates and huge competition.

    /golfclap
    I'd rather that then doing the event like 10 times and having everything, then waiting 1.5 months with nothing to do until the next patch hits so I can get a full set of the "new best gear" in 3 days.

    People bitch about time sinks all the time, but I'd much much much rather have time sinks than having everything handed to me.
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    Also, a point or token system would affect greatly the casual player. Of which, there are many on our game.

    If we did have a point system, it works out nice for the person who plays 4-8 hours a day. But the players who can only manage maybe 8-10 a week would lose out. Some amount of points that takes you a month to gather would take obviously a lot longer for them...but if you leave it as a random drop, they have a chance every time. Just like everyone else.

    Chance is a game's equalizer and draw. Removing it for a foregone conclusion that causes a hierarchy of players, seems a bit counter-intuitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbed View Post
    Instead of dropping the DL gear just have a DL helm token drop(same drop rate) which could be turned in for any of the DL head pieces and head/chest is required for the gear that takes up both slots. Right now its fucking retarded after getting ~25 drops and not a single mage piece. GG SE
    25 drops O.O And you're complaining? lol

    We haven't gotten anything since early last week. Still only 4 drops out of probably 350-400 chests.

    Edit: Err, let me rephrase that. We've opened at least 350-400 chests since our last drop.
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    Last edited by MeowyWowie; 03-30-2012 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    25 drops O.O And you're complaining? lol

    We haven't gotten anything since early last week. Still only 4 drops out of probably 350-400 chests.

    Edit: Err, let me rephrase that. We've opened at least 350-400 chests since our last drop.
    It is just sad...

    You can enter every 15 minutes like... Imagine if you could only go once a day?

    I'm so tired of people wanting stuff handed to them. It's really ruining the game for people who actually want to play.
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