Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
The moment it becomes MP free is likely the moment the Cooldown goes from 15s to 25s and the Dark Arts proc will be removed. The MP cost is the reason why the cooldown is so short and the refund mechanic exists to use it regardless of MP cost. I highly doubt we will ever get Dark Arts procs on a free version of TBN either, as it would directly equate into DPS gains.

Is it punishing unlike other short cooldowns if you mess up? Yes it is. But I honestly believe that correct TBN usage is about one of the last skill expressions left on this job, along with the other tanks having too much handholding and safety in their kits. So please let us keep TBN the way it is.

Instead, let us hold a 2nd stack of Dark Arts rather and utilise the Dark Arts mechanic more.
what you said is great and i agree with it. But it seems like you didn't focus on the second part of what i said, which is the reason i made this post. i know it will never be mb free, and i'm totally cool with the punishing aspect of it, however i want to know what do you think about the hp gain i mentioned ? because drk desperately needs some selfheals.