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  1. #301
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    True-to-Caesar's Avatar
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    Kyros Orsidius
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    Sagittarius
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    honestly bit lame bulwark is just blocking and no mit,
    yeah they put mit on sheltron but gauge is still built up by auto attacks, if they let holy spirit build gauge again it be fine imo.
    It’s homogenization, but half done here : GNB has camouflage and it gives parry + a bit of damage reduction. However GNB has less sustain. No idea if war has something similar. At any rate, it doesn’t feel I’ll play PLD again.
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  2. #302
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Likethewind View Post
    Hopefully they do what they did to all classes what they did to healers.
    They're well on their way with it, look at the outcry against the SMN rework. Issue is that people are in this weird headspace where, if we say 'welcome to what healers have had to suffer for several years', rather than go 'damn you guys had it like this for THAT long, we gotta push back against SE together', people instead go 'stop making this about healers ffs, we're complaining about SMN here'. So because of the division, SE only sees a small amount of players complaining specifically about 'class that was just cratered' and assume 'the majority must be ambivalent or better, success!' and move on to crater the next class in line
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  3. #303
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    It’s homogenization, but half done here : GNB has camouflage and it gives parry + a bit of damage reduction. However GNB has less sustain. No idea if war has something similar. At any rate, it doesn’t feel I’ll play PLD again.
    GNB has equivalent sustain, IIRC. Heart of Corundum is less total healing potency than Sheltron, but they have a LOT of healing potency on their filler combo, plus two charges of Aurora. I think Divine Might allowing more frequent spell use will make PLD closer in sustain than it was before, but keep in mind that Clemency is still completely unusable for all practical intents and purposes, so factoring in Aurora puts GNB ahead. Also keep in mind that GNB's sustain comes on the second GCD of the cycle while PLD's comes in on the fourth GCD at the earliest. GNB can 1-2-1-2-1-2 for exceptionally high sustain if they really need to.
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  4. #304
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    Voidedge_Ragna's Avatar
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    Edge Void
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Instead of working on the problem with the 2 minute burst meta, they killed of paladins flow completely, if you look at the suggested rotation on the balance you just gag ... not only is there no clear line ... its all wonky AND there are hardcasted spirits in there which feels backwards.

    Drg and Ast your next, so far every rework gutted the class.

    This raised the floor and lowered the celling, which is what SE wants, in best case all classes are exactally the same with different animations ...
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  5. #305
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    aodhan_ofinnegain's Avatar
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    Aodhan O'finnegain
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    Or, the most likely change would be they increase recast of Fight or Flight to 2minutes, and allow it to affect all damage, so we'd have a big Requiescat burst in opener and every 2 minutes, and a small Requiescat burst every other minute.
    Guess I wasn't entirely too far off the mark in the end lol

    over shot by like 60seconds on FoF...so close
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  6. #306
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    Guess I wasn't entirely too far off the mark in the end lol

    over shot by like 60seconds on FoF...so close
    60 sec rotations feel better, anyway. 2 minutes is a *long* time to go with nothing but filler.
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  7. #307
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    Aodhan O'finnegain
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    60 sec rotations feel better, anyway. 2 minutes is a *long* time to go with nothing but filler.
    I mean it wouldn't have been nothing but filler, you still would have had a req window in there, but yea 60seconds is still more than fine.
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  8. #308
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    Ashrune Wytherbrand
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 82
    How many Paladins walked away today?

    This one did.
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  9. #309
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    Myra Valin
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyther View Post
    How many Paladins walked away today?

    This one did.
    I did. What a mess. What the hell were they thinking? Looks like I'm not going to be a tank main anymore. Either white mage or machinist/dancer for me it seems
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  10. #310
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMisled View Post
    I did. What a mess. What the hell were they thinking? Looks like I'm not going to be a tank main anymore. Either white mage or machinist/dancer for me it seems
    Do yourself a favour, if the PLD rework is not what you want from the game, WHM sure as hell won't be.
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