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    Player Simple_Barghest's Avatar
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    I only have so many fingers why did we gain buttons instead of losing buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simple_Barghest View Post
    I only have so many fingers why did we gain buttons instead of losing buttons.
    Because apparently they want players to still be reliant on third-party tools. Well, "reliant." It's not that you can't handle the existing buttons, it's just that it's a lot more convenient when you can have something that just swaps buttons out for other buttons when they're part of one-way combinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    Because apparently they want players to still be reliant on third-party tools. Well, "reliant." It's not that you can't handle the existing buttons, it's just that it's a lot more convenient when you can have something that just swaps buttons out for other buttons when they're part of one-way combinations.
    Thing that gets me there is they implement that system for PvP, and it works, but refuse to consider back-porting it even though they've established and had more jobs since the old days, so have needed to update the 'spaghetti code.'
    And then get mad when people use 3rd-party to get that same quality-of-life elsewhere.
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    PLD feels ugly to play in the current state.

    My keybinds flowed like water before, but now I'm stretching across my entire keyboard mid rotation for normal damage coherency. And that's before I weave my oGCDs and mitigation cooldowns turning the practiced muscle memory of 6 years into a spiderweb of pain and carpel tunnel.

    The changes made, as stated above served only to beat PLD over the head until it fit into the 20s every 2 minute shape every other class and to further Square's hatred of anything dot based.

    Who actually asked for these exact changes?
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    I played PLD on my Endwalker Bunny a bit on a Striking Dummy to get a feeling of those changes and.. we lost Goring Blade as Combo Finisher. Goring is now a 60s Single Target CD, basicly Spirits Within but on 1 minute instead of 30s, which makes Goring line up with FoF perfectly, so I do now FoF into Goring all the time, just how I Ogi into Senei or Guren on SAM or Trickattack into Kassatsu on NIN.. back to PLD though Expiacion feels redundant to me but Hey! Bulwark is back! YES! but am I here to tell that those PLD changes are Good, because I adepted to them? No. They easily could just make the Goring DoT stack with the Valor DoT that would've been cool, so we didn't got it, here have a OG Spirits Within on 60s even though we turned Spirits Within into an AoE, even though Circle of Scorn already exists!.. I think I should try to run a dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    I played PLD on my Endwalker Bunny a bit on a Striking Dummy to get a feeling of those changes and.. we lost Goring Blade as Combo Finisher. Goring is now a 60s Single Target CD, basicly Spirits Within but on 1 minute instead of 30s, which makes Goring line up with FoF perfectly, so I do now FoF into Goring all the time, just how I Ogi into Senei or Guren on SAM or Trickattack into Kassatsu on NIN.. back to PLD though Expiacion feels redundant to me but Hey! Bulwark is back! YES! but am I here to tell that those PLD changes are Good, because I adepted to them? No. They easily could just make the Goring DoT stack with the Valor DoT that would've been cool, so we didn't got it, here have a OG Spirits Within on 60s even though we turned Spirits Within into an AoE, even though Circle of Scorn already exists!.. I think I should try to run a dungeon.
    more accurate to say Goring Blade is another Sonic Break, since both are GCD and 60s CD
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