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  1. #31
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Raiding being removed wouldn't kill the game, it would just hurt the experience for those who are here to raid. The only thing that will actually flat out kill the game is Square deciding one day to go nuclear and stop supporting the game (or maybe NFTs but that's a whole other story).

    Even if raiding was removed....those that play for the story, DoH/DoL, gil making, role-playing/venues, modding/custom content, housing, achievement hunting, pvp, FCs/FC related events etc. would still be here. It's only one facet of the game, not the entire game.
    So much of what you detailed is occupied primarily by stutter subbers and casuls. Those aren't good revenue avenues
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  2. #32
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    So much of what you detailed is occupied primarily by stutter subbers and casuls. Those aren't good revenue avenues
    I know to you casuals are basically irrelevant but doesn't stop them from existing and encompassing a large portion of the playerbase. They're also here providing ways for people to spend their time that aren't interested in hardcore content. That's why there's literally pages and pages and pages of venue ads and social activities (Aether is a great example) even during dead periods. If no one was there supporting said venues and providing them income then they wouldn't be covering the PF like a monsoon every day.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 01-09-2023 at 09:33 PM.

  3. #33
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    So much of what you detailed is occupied primarily by stutter subbers and casuls. Those aren't good revenue avenues
    You do realise that the casuals and stutter subbers make up the greatest revenue share in online games? That's why studios focus so much on accommodating them and making their games accessible to that audience. Its also why the really casual friendly MMO's like XIV are thriving while the really hardcore ones struggle. XIV's community is largely made up of casual and what you might describe as midcore players, so this idea you have that the hardcore endgame playerbase is core and SE needs to bend to their will is really off base.
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    WHM / BLM / SMN / NIN/ DNC / Omnicrafter and Gatherer

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    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
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    Monk Lv 100
    Mentor by the way





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  5. #35
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    Why is crafting mentor a thing anyway?
    What do you teach people? how to make a macro?
    I don't care for any kind of mentor, but crafting mentors you really don't want advice from.
    Whenever I get a crafting mentor 99% ott they play worse than sprouts..
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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    What do you teach people? how to make a macro?
    well... yeah.
    One of em
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  7. #37
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    Bryn Shadesong
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    Why is crafting mentor a thing anyway?
    What do you teach people? how to make a macro?
    I don't care for any kind of mentor, but crafting mentors you really don't want advice from.
    Whenever I get a crafting mentor 99% ott they play worse than sprouts..
    I get the feeling you're a bit light on your pockets.
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  8. #38
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    Why is crafting mentor a thing anyway?
    What do you teach people? how to make a macro?
    I don't care for any kind of mentor, but crafting mentors you really don't want advice from.
    Whenever I get a crafting mentor 99% ott they play worse than sprouts..
    These days the people I encounter with questions prefer to just use macros compared to being taught so most of the time I'm just asked to send them to a website that has them. Crafting needs to be made harder if Square wants mentors to have a use aside from a middle man to macros.
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  9. #39
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    So much of what you detailed is occupied primarily by stutter subbers and casuls. Those aren't good revenue avenues
    Didnt you get the memo? Savage raiders are only 0.00001% of the player base (source: I made it up). Please ignore that at the time of it being current content 25% of all max level players had a E5S clear logged.
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  10. #40
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Didnt you get the memo? Savage raiders are only 0.00001% of the player base (source: I made it up). Please ignore that at the time of it being current content 25% of all max level players had a E5S clear logged.
    Also please ignore when Yoshida HIMSELF that half the player base had participated in Eden's Promise Savage, with almost a third of the player base having cleared the tier
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