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    Sure, I can get behind this, a thousand times over.

    Whilst I know cheesing the EXP is a thing, I don't think it should be the normalized or expected experience of a new player or even someone that actually wants to experience Eureka. If the idea is just the end goal of having a relic, at the expense of skipping the journey, then sure. But like I said I don't think it should be normalized and nor would I expect or want to see this feature excluded on this basis.

    Not when it can have potential implications for future content going forward, and most especially when the original design behind Eureka was that you'd essentially group up with other players and farm monsters in an excess of your elemental level - Why not incorporate a level sync feature, something that allows players to group up regardless of the levels of the player, without there being some form of system that basically inconveniences this.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 01-07-2023 at 06:28 AM.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Sure, I can get behind this, a thousand times over.

    Whilst I know cheesing the EXP is a thing, I don't think it should be the normalized or expected experience of a new player or even someone that actually wants to experience Eureka. If the idea is just the end goal of having a relic, at the expense of skipping the journey, then sure. But like I said I don't think it should be normalized and nor would I expect or want to see this feature excluded on this basis.

    Not when it can have potential implications for future content going forward, and most especially when the original design behind Eureka was that you'd essentially group up with other players and farm monsters in an excess of your elemental level - Why not incorporate a level sync feature, something that allows players to group up regardless of the levels of the player, without there being some form of system that basically inconveniences this.
    Really it should just Sync you down to within 2 levels of the lowest level party member.

    Would be a permanent solution to grouping in Eureka and being able to play with friends.
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  3. #43
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    If -I- had to grind by myself feeding on the leftovers of each zone while max-level players obliterated NMs and Rabbit Fates, so do you.
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  4. #44
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    I'm just wondering if the devs are so dead set on the content being done as a group then why even allow you to enter solo in the first place?
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    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I'm just wondering if the devs are so dead set on the content being done as a group then why even allow you to enter solo in the first place?
    Because the devs often have a problem of idolizing specific forms of gameplay, while never understanding how different players may want to interact with said content, or how it would scale over time.

    Eureka was Yoshi's dream of players living the IDEA of XI and forced interaction, but neglected to understand how that wouldn't scale or stretch without the other systems XI has. He wanted players to make new friends, and that's fine - But the instances often don't HAVE those type of opportunities, because most players are already max level. It worked in their ideal scenario, when the instances had max players and you could join new instances to look for different level farming groups. But it doesn't anymore, so it feels like neglected content.
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    Last edited by R041; 01-07-2023 at 12:32 PM.

  6. #46
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    Eureka is a challenging experience for true players, not for whiners.

    User 'WP1990' summarized it perfectly.
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    Ignorants can talk about subjects they don't know about, but they shouldn't
    -Rex Artis

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexArtis View Post
    Eureka is a challenging experience for true players, not for whiners.

    User 'WP1990' summarized it perfectly.
    You both have the same issue Yoshi tends to have - Idolization without understanding how others may want to play it.

    Let them play the game without shoehorning or shaming. I don't care if you have grandma's earring.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by RexArtis View Post
    Eureka is a challenging experience for true players, not for whiners.

    User 'WP1990' summarized it perfectly.
    I'm sure it would seem that way to someone who's never left the zone to experience anything else. But I digress, I'm not here to start drama on someone else's thread.
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    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    You both have the same issue Yoshi tends to have - Idolization without understanding how others may want to play it.

    Let them play the game without shoehorning or shaming. I don't care if you have grandma's earring.
    Oh, don't be jelous about my earring! Maybe one day you'll have it itoo...

    Don't look at them if you don't like 'em or if you wish you had it...

    You can look my Garlond Goggles instead, if it pleases you.
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    Ignorants can talk about subjects they don't know about, but they shouldn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I'm sure it would seem that way to someone who's never left the zone to experience anything else. But I digress, I'm not here to start drama on someone else's thread.
    You are a bit foolish with this sentence... or a lot, you do the math. Why? Because I do leave Eureka and I do a lot more things you can ever imagine!
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    Ignorants can talk about subjects they don't know about, but they shouldn't
    -Rex Artis

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