Is There a Way to Make Eureka [b]Not[/b] Suck?

[Kaurhz]

You can start bagging their tags, you can spawn NMs for them so that the former starts being more and more effective. You can give them Logograms

Again, there should be something more fluid that actually allows people to play with each other, without the level disparity effectively being "I'm going to carry you through Eureka" - I can say peoples' mindset towards this is very mixed, I've had people put off Eureka because it effectively feels like they aren't playing nor contributing equally with the party until around Level 17, and then this completely resets again in Pagos and Pyros and Hydatos.

Just give a system that allows people to downscale their own level according to the people they wish to play with. without unnecessarily punishing themselves by intentionally dying to do so. Is that really a difficult request, or difficult to understand for that matter?

The most ironic part is people in this thread constantly chirping on the nonsense of Eureka supposedly meant to be a hardcore, call to the days of old with MMOs pure grinding random monsters in the field, yet there's no system that actively facilitates this unless you want to cheese as FATE for 2 1/2 minutes, and even then the players' sole contribution to this is dealing 204 damage, whilst people cheesing are dealing damage tenfold of that.

Doesn't really make for a fun nor engaging system, does it?

[FireMage]

Again, there should be something more fluid that actually allows people to play with each other, without the level disparity effectively being "I'm going to carry you through Eureka" - I can say peoples' mindset towards this is very mixed, I've had people put off Eureka because it effectively feels like they aren't playing nor contributing equally with the party until around Level 17, and then this completely resets again in Pagos and Pyros and Hydatos.

Just give a system that allows people to downscale their own level according to the people they wish to play with. without unnecessarily punishing themselves by intentionally dying to do so. Is that really a difficult request, or difficult to understand for that matter?

The most ironic part is people in this thread constantly chirping on the nonsense of Eureka supposedly meant to be a hardcore, call to the days of old with MMOs pure grinding random monsters in the field, yet there's no system that actively facilitates this unless you want to cheese as FATE for 2 1/2 minutes, and even then the players' sole contribution to this is dealing 204 damage, whilst people cheesing are dealing damage tenfold of that.

Doesn't really make for a fun nor engaging system, does it?

No such system needs to be made, Eureka is fine as is. Learn to make friends?

[george357]

yes don't play it.

[Kaurhz]

No such system needs to be made, Eureka is fine as is. Learn to make friends?

I see the point of the post went over your head like the other with an abysmal reading comprehension.

Congratulations, allow me to reiterate, making friends is not the issue. The issue is friends are routinely punished and inconvenienced by such a system given they cannot pair up with friends that aren't equally leveled without either inconveniencing themselves or by playing Eureka in the most boring and unengaging way possible.

Such a system does need to be implemented and if you cannot see a reason why, and deliberate attempts to try and misconstrue the premise of the post then I don't really see a productive debate coming from this.

[FireMage]

I see the point of the post went over your head like the other with an abysmal reading comprehension.

Congratulations, allow me to reiterate, making friends is not the issue. The issue is friends are routinely punished and inconvenienced by such a system given they cannot pair up with friends that aren't equally leveled without either inconveniencing themselves or by playing Eureka in the most boring and unengaging way possible.

Such a system does need to be implemented and if you cannot see a reason why, and deliberate attempts to try and misconstrue the premise of the post then I don't really see a productive debate coming from this.

I'm not debating you, as the word presumes you have a point worth merit. You don't, I am informing you

[Kaurhz]

I'm not debating you, as the word presumes you have a point worth merit. You don't, I am informing you

Yet you have deemed your time and the point worthwhile enough to respond several times, seems like you're contradicting yourself there.

This condescending nonsense may work with others, but not here. Either stop contradicting yourself or stop replying. I would say it's that simple but then it might be difficult for you.

Perhaps you just like the attention? That's simultaneously cute and cringeworthy, well done.

[Magikazam]

I see the point of the post went over your head like the other with an abysmal reading comprehension.

Congratulations, allow me to reiterate, making friends is not the issue. The issue is friends are routinely punished and inconvenienced by such a system given they cannot pair up with friends that aren't equally leveled without either inconveniencing themselves or by playing Eureka in the most boring and unengaging way possible.

Why do you feed the troll?

[FireMage]

Yet you have deemed your time and the point worthwhile enough to respond several times, seems like you're contradicting yourself there.

This condescending nonsense may work with others, but not here. Either stop contradicting yourself or stop replying. I would say it's that simple but then it might be difficult for you.

I'm not contradicting myself at all. You are in need of education. You are welcome

[Kaurhz]

I'm not contradicting myself at all. You are in need of education. You are welcome

You should stop looking in the mirror here. It's not really healthy.

You insist the posts are not worth merit, and similarly have no point yet you're insistent on wasting your time replying.

You are trying to assert one thing, yet your actions are completely contradicting this. There's your first lesson.

[Kaurhz]

Why do you feed the troll?

It's a great way to discover new heuristics and hone debating skills.

What can I say, I'm a sucker for it.