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    Quote Originally Posted by Effendi View Post
    DPS meters promote instrumental play over social play.
    So does every additional level of difficulty for which falling behind on dps would cause a wipe. These tools don't come out of nowhere; they fit a need their games already generally have.

    When did fflogs so take off (then xivhiro, and then back to fflogs as when it added rDPS)? Gordias. Coincidence? In part, probably, because people were already starting to compare numbers from back in original Savage (when it was an additional challenge mode rather than simply the new [slightly above] normal mode with normal becoming reduced difficulty), but there was certainly some influence.

    Every sport is almost entirely instrumental (the social components being only the --themselves very short-- decisions to modify the format or rules of the game), and I'm not just talking about at the competitive level (even the middle or high school levels thereof). Yet that hasn't made playing some tennis with friends some inherent cesspit of toxicity. And while stakes may raise in just going from rallying to adding the tracked scores of playing in games and sets, neither does that suddenly make it toxic.

    Nor is the average Heroic PuG there any more toxic than the average Savage PuG here. (Quite the opposite, it's seemed, if only due to larger raid sizes and less PK-happy fight designs.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Because here's the kicker. What's sanctioned is you being measured. Your logs don't need to be made public on something the devs themselves made; fflogs is public by fan design, the devs can easily turn that around. What isn't, and the crux of your fear, is hostility and toxicity around those logs should they be made public. Which, again, if it happens, you're in the right to report the person away. As you do anyway nowadays.
    Aye. And it's a slightly weird point to think about. The XIV policy already allows for all one's information about their performance to be stored publicly without one's consent. All it effectively forbids is your looking and your raid's information in real time.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-06-2023 at 01:34 PM.