Is There a Way to Make Eureka [b]Not[/b] Suck?

[Kaurhz]

You can always do the content together with friends from the start and make memories together! Maybe people should stop treating MMORPGs as singleplayer games.

Yes, allow people to ask a friend to de-level themselves or to create a fresh character so they can experience Eureka once again with someone. The number of people willing to do this even for friends is far and few between.

You see, I would have also been willing to give you some kudos here, but apparently reading really isn't your forte. The issue isn't with people wanting or treating MMORPGs as single-player games. The issue is related to the game having a lack of a system in place for those more adequately levelled to help those whom they are friends with of a lower level without restarting a fresh character.

Maybe stop trying to jump to really wild conclusions regarding the premise of a post and actually elect to read the post in the first place, and then actively try to examine why the lack of down-syncing yourself could be deemed an issue - and an issue that actually conflicts with your premise of 'maybe people should stop treating MMORPGs as a single-player game' - Maybe if the game would allow me without being overly inconvenient about it.

Let's examine this shall we, in case the implication has gone above your head.

In order for me to help or join a friend without them being inconvenienced I need to either:

1. Resort to exclusively just pop NMs in order for them to level, to which their reward will significantly diminish.
2. De-level myself to the lowest possible level so that I can farm monsters with them.
3. Create a brand new character and either skip through the entire story or purchase a job skip in addition to a story skip.

[Ranaku]

Yes, allow people to ask a friend to de-level themselves or to create a fresh character so they can experience Eureka once again with someone. The number of people willing to do this even for friends is far and few between.

You see, I would have also been willing to give you some kudos here, but apparently reading really isn't your forte. The issue isn't with people wanting or treating MMORPGs as single-player games. The issue is related to the game having a lack of a system in place for those more adequately levelled to help those whom they are friends with of a lower level without restarting a fresh character.

Maybe stop trying to just to really wild conclusions regarding the premise of a post and actually elect to read the post in the first place, and then actively try to examine why the lack of down-syncing yourself could be deemed an issue - and an issue that actually conflicts with your premise of 'maybe people should stop treating MMORPGs as a single-player game' - Maybe if the game would allow me without being overly inconvenient about it.

Let's examine this shall we, in case the implication has gone above your head.

In order for me to help or join a friend without them being inconvenienced I need to either:

1. Resort to exclusively just pop NMs in order for them to level, to which their reward will significantly diminish.
2. De-level myself to the lowest possible level so that I can farm monsters with them.
3. Create a brand new character and either skip through the entire story or purchase a job skip in addition to a story skip.

I mean if you can only have fun with completely fresh content and if helping someone through content and seeing them achieve what they want is not enough for you to make your brain release feeling good chemicals then i can see how one would well be like that.

And yeah, just help them farm NMs cause well those also give the mats etc. one needs for the relics etc. but tbh if you don't want to do the content in the first place what is your reasoning then anyways? It seems like you for example wouldn't do it either way.

[Kaurhz]

I mean if you can only have fun with completely fresh content and if helping someone through content and seeing them achieve what they want is not enough for you to make your brain release feeling good chemicals then i can see how one would well be like that.

And yeah, just help them farm NMs cause well those also give the mats etc. one needs for the relics etc. but tbh if you don't want to do the content in the first place what is your reasoning then anyways? It seems like you for example wouldn't do it either way.

Like I said, reading really isn't your forte. To reiterate, the issue is that to help them achieve what they want, either I or they need to be terribly inconvenienced. If the goal is to help them I would do about as much to help them by not joining them in the first place so they can solo monsters without my excessive level negating the exp.

See, the issue here is if I am consistently joined by them, then very quickly their rewards will be diminished, they won't earn the appropriate crystals if they aren't within the level range of the NM, similarly, they won't earn any of the rare materials, and further to this their exp will be diminished to the point that they would gain more just from fighting monsters solo that are +1/+2 of their elemental level.

Again, I would rather their experience not be diminished and they not be punished by in-game systems just because I elected to join them, or because they wanted another player to join them. Pretty bold claim there. That you and some others cannot see this as an issue is almost deeply concerning.

[Joven]

You did it now, in this your very question.
But, to answer you properly, I say that the term 'you' in English is also plural. So if you answer like you have just done, you are simply underlining that something is hurting you, while you should not because you opened this thread complaining for a feature a lot of people loves and plays (I am an Eureka player and it is a very crowded instance).
Crying like you are doing, won't change anything.

Either reading comprehension must not be your strong suit, or you're intentionally misconstruing what is being said (the most likely option). Good for you if you enjoy Eureka, a lot of people don't and it has been a point of contention since it's inception.

[Joven]

Here my quick guide to "How to make group content not suck":

1. Make friends

2. Do content with friends

3. Have fun cause you do it with friends and not strangers

4. Have an easier time cause friends are helping you out

5. Profit

I have friends, we did Bozja together. They don't want to touch Eureka with a ten foot pole.

[Magikazam]

Personally I found Anemos to be the most tedious zone for few reasons:

1. It's not a flat plain like Hydatos. (Although not as bad as Pagos, definitely)
2. The first zone to be explored, which means newbies tend to not know what to expect. I was one of those folks who got discouraged hard that I stepped out of Eureka for at least half a year before going back in to try again.
3. Besides to grind dyeable artifact gear and relic weapons, the zone is very 'one and done'. There are very little to nothing that keeps the veterans incentivized to keep going back unlike 3 other zones (Which is why some people think Eureka is dead when they first zoned in).
4. No Logos Actions.

Pagos is... alright imho (except kettle farming). Dragons' positions are all static, they never change. Sure they are annoying at first when they killed you (general you) unexpectedly but, literally the only thing people need to do is to just.... walk... or turn to full defensive magia then scramble past them with full speed lol.

1. so...?
2. The same apply to each zone and if anything Anemos is the less dangerous ones, there no thing such as dragon that require you to rp walk.
3. you forgot the various chest reward, Including mounts and glams?

Seriously I swear People love to exagerate Eureka issues and scare people away, then complain no one want to do the content with them.

[Midareyukki]

I have friends, we did Bozja together. They don't want to touch Eureka with a ten foot pole.

Same.

I'll run Dalriada 1000 times and never get bored of it.

Put me in Hydatos for five minutes and I crave death.

[Renalt]

Some people like Eureka it. Some don't.

Can we at LEAST agree on that?

[Midareyukki]

Some people like Eureka it. Some don't.

Can we at LEAST agree on that?

That should go without saying º3º

I mean, this is a community, we're bound to like some stuff that others won't. Doesn't make their experiences and preferences any less valid.
It's only when we start trashing on the people who do like the content/don't like the content that it gets problematic.

Because disagreeing isn't an insult.
Being an arse is.

[Renalt]

That should go without saying º3º

I mean, this is a community, we're bound to like some stuff that others won't. Doesn't make their experiences and preferences any less valid.
It's only when we start trashing on the people who do like the content/don't like the content that it gets problematic.

Because disagreeing isn't an insult.
Being an arse is.

Honestly I was half expecting people to disagree with the statement because...I dunno...people like to argue on here.