Content geared towards FCs

[Atelier-Bagur]

What if there was something that you cant do in this game but you really wanted it?

That exists already with current savage gears. I love some of the weapons for glams and I would reeeeeeaally like to get them but I lack the patience and skill to do savage raiding anymore. Does that mean the team have to cater to us casuals that want the weapons by making savage raiding easier? Hell no.

[Vidu]

That exists already with current savage gears. I love some of the weapons for glams and I would reeeeeeaally like to get them but I lack the patience and skill to do savage raiding anymore. Does that mean the team have to cater to us casuals that want the weapons by making savage raiding easier? Hell no.

Thats not the same, though - dont confuse "getting to play the content" with "getting the rewards of said content". You can do savage right now - access to it has never been easier! Since ARR more and more options were added to make access to this content easier - putting it in DF, allowing to queue for it without a full party, adding PF, adding options to DF/PF to allow to "filter" for groups...
Adding FC-exclusive content would do the opposite - it would make content more difficult to acces in the first place, before even considering how easy it would be to get the rewards.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Thats not the same, though - dont confuse "getting to play the content" with "getting the rewards of said content". You can do savage right now - access to it has never been easier! Since ARR more and more options were added to make access to this content easier - putting it in DF, allowing to queue for it without a full party, adding PF, adding options to DF/PF to allow to "filter" for groups...
Adding FC-exclusive content would do the opposite - it would make content more difficult to acces in the first place, before even considering how easy it would be to get the rewards.

and my counter argument is exactly what you just stated in this post. You can easily join any FC in this game. The whole point of FC content is to appeal to those already in one. There's already stuff locked behind FC anyway and let me already tell you as someone who plays alts, I dont care for my alts to be in any FC, because the point for it is engaging with that community circle which I dont normally care for. I dont ever feel pressured or obligated having to join one for doing extra content whastover. My whole point for adding more FC based activities is for the benefit of those communities, not for the individual player. The solo player isnt going to necessarily care for that kind of content if thats not in their MO with this game. So why are we suddenly going "But think of the non-FC players!" Like seriously who cares. Let those people have their own fun. You dont have to care if you dont want to. I certainly dont. I just think its neat for this game to have extra stuff for people to do for dedicating their time in certain parts of this game. How is this so wrong?

[MonteCristo]

and my counter argument is exactly what you just stated in this post. You can easily join any FC in this game. The whole point of FC content is to appeal to those already in one. There's already stuff locked behind FC anyway and let me already tell you as someone who plays alts, I dont care for my alts to be in any FC, because the point for it is engaging with that community circle which I dont normally care for. I dont ever feel pressured or obligated having to join one for doing extra content whastover. My whole point for adding more FC based activities is for the benefit of those communities, not for the individual player. The solo player isnt going to necessarily care for that kind of content if thats not in their MO with this game. So why are we suddenly going "But think of the non-FC players!" Like seriously who cares. Let those people have their own fun. You dont have to care if you dont want to. I certainly dont. I just think its neat for this game to have extra stuff for people to do for dedicating their time in certain parts of this game. How is this so wrong?

This a million times. Blows my mind that were rly arguing about adding group based content in an MMORPG!

[Deveryn]

This a million times. Blows my mind that were rly arguing about adding group based content in an MMORPG!

As if we lack group content. That's the main problem with this. You're not adding anything new. You just want something behind a legit barrier.

[MonteCristo]

As if we lack group content. That's the main problem with this. You're not adding anything new. You just want something behind a legit barrier.

The barrier has nothing to do with it thats what yall made it about. This is more about having more innovative stuff to do with larger groups any other agenda is what yall have deduced this thread to.

[Deveryn]

The barrier has nothing to do with it thats what yall made it about. This is more about having more innovative stuff to do with larger groups any other agenda is what yall have deduced this thread to.

Let's take another look at how this started.

Any plans to ever incorporate group content based on FCs banding together to tackle content as a group? FCs kinda feel like social groups more than real guilds just my two gil.

The fact is we can already do every piece of group content in the game without an FC. What is the point of specifically mentioning FCs? It's hard not to assume there's some kind of barrier like you have to be in an FC to do this. You've been terribly vague about this. You can't even outline how the FCs are supposed to work together. It doesn't even matter because whatever you come up with is automatically made redundant by the current systems in place.

You talk about guilds and that makes me think of a couple of games. Whatever you're thinking of, this is not that kind of game. This is a story of one hero playable my many.

I try to get more info out of you, but you continue to dodge that question and insist on gaslighting instead, touting your elder status as if it means something. If you can't go beyond talking about us and talk more about what it is you actually want in detail, then there's nothing more to be said here.

[Raven2014]

This a million times. Blows my mind that were rly arguing about adding group based content in an MMORPG!

What blows my mind is 14 pages and you can't still be honest with your argument.

No-one against adding content.
No-one against adding group content.

We're against adding unnecessary string to said content.

What blows my mind is despite being asked repeatly for 14 pages, you have never once provide a reason why a content should be exclusive for FC instead of freely available, aside the I can't run my own FC so I need the dev to does it for me.

What blows my mind is you still don't get people not against your bill, but against the pork you attached to it.

What blows my mind is you still try to gas-light people about not supporting adding group-content, which we all do. This is just literally you running around accusing everyone who doesn't support your favorite tax-break as anti-economy.

[MonteCristo]

What blows my mind is 14 pages and you can't still be honest with your argument.

No-one against adding content.
No-one against adding group content.

We're against adding unnecessary string to said content.

What blows my mind is despite being asked repeatly for 14 pages, you have never once provide a reason why a content should be exclusive for FC instead of freely available, aside the I can't run my own FC so I need the dev to does it for me.

What blows my mind is you still don't get people not against your bill, but against the pork you attached to it.

What blows my mind is you still try to gas-light people about not supporting adding group-content, which we all do. This is just literally you running around accusing everyone who doesn't support your favorite tax-break as anti-economy.

What blows my mind is u got that triggered lol. Id entertain you but lets be real no one is listening. Thats why i said carry on..ive accepted disneyland for what it is no point in going back in forth. I really only responded because there was signs of life amongst others in this thread in what i was trying to explain but im not getting into a pissing contest over something this trivial. Arguing with the cult is pointless and i have better ways to waste my time to be blunt.

[Raven2014]

What blows my mind is u got that triggered lol. Id entertain you but lets be real no one is listening.

Oh, so someone saying "mind blow" is what you considered trigger? Huh, I'm just following your example my dude.

Arguing with the cult is pointless and i have better ways to waste my time to be blunt.

Say the man who keeps wasting time. I never understood people who need to adapt this kind of false pretense tbh. If you want to argue, just argue. If you think someone is not worth responding to, then don't. If you don't think it works your time, just walk away. What's the benefit of these "grand standing" anyhow? All it shows is you can't even keep up with your own word.

And calling people argue with you a cult ... and you talk about other being triggered?