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  1. #561
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    IkaraGreydancer's Avatar
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    It's not the responsibility of others to make someone git gud
    Never said it was. It's not news that many of you are out here for your own gain and nothing more. That's your right to be that way. But on the flip side don't turn around and whine about bad players when you yourself haven't been trying to help mend that problem.

    Saying "git gud" like some CoD frat boy doesn't change anything. It only promotes toxicity. Your mindset is one of the reasons you won't ever get official damage meters in game. Sad you don't realize this
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  2. #562
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Did you miss the part of the TOS where you cannot tell others how to play? This is why people are so scared of offering tips in dungeons, you can literally be reported for offering advice (whether it actually gets punished or not is another story). Official parsers being added isn't going to suddenly make it so some random person can go off on you in a duty. If you call someone shit, it's very clearly breaking the TOS.

    Like yeah, people can break the TOS, they already do, and they are wildly not the norm. But those people get punished and, hopefully, removed from the game.

    Side note, if anything, it'd be hilarious to have a parsing tool added specifically to weed the toxic people out of the game.
    It's so weird that all these people pretend like the TOS dont exist just because it doesnt suite their argument right now. Very strange.
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  3. #563
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Never said it was. It's not news that many of you are out here for your own gain and nothing more. That's your right to be that way. But on the flip side don't turn around and whine about bad players when you yourself haven't been trying to help mend that problem.

    Saying "git gud" like some CoD frat boy doesn't change anything. It only promotes toxicity. Your mindset is one of the reasons you won't ever get official damage meters in game. Sad you don't realize this
    Man the tone of your message says otherwise, many of you honestly feel that people should carry.

    Nothing wrong wanting to play high end for their own gain.
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  4. #564
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    It's so weird that all these people pretend like the TOS dont exist just because it doesnt suite their argument right now. Very strange.
    They don't expect people offering advice to get better, they are trying to force a culture is carrying and shut up about it.
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  5. #565
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Not a single person gets banned for offering tips in a dungeon. You don't actually believe those people who go post on reddit and say they got banned for "no reason" do you?
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  6. #566
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Never said it was. It's not news that many of you are out here for your own gain and nothing more. That's your right to be that way. But on the flip side don't turn around and whine about bad players when you yourself haven't been trying to help mend that problem.

    Saying "git gud" like some CoD frat boy doesn't change anything. It only promotes toxicity. Your mindset is one of the reasons you won't ever get official damage meters in game. Sad you don't realize this
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  7. #567
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    Delis's Avatar
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    Mari Yumishi
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Never said it was. It's not news that many of you are out here for your own gain and nothing more. That's your right to be that way. But on the flip side don't turn around and whine about bad players when you yourself haven't been trying to help mend that problem.

    Saying "git gud" like some CoD frat boy doesn't change anything. It only promotes toxicity. Your mindset is one of the reasons you won't ever get official damage meters in game. Sad you don't realize this
    A few of us already explained why we stopped offering help. People play the victim and act like we just attacked them and their family, and you have people that defend them and say don't offer our advice because they should be allowed to play the way they want, even if it puts more burden on the other group members because the healer wants to cure 1 spam or Timmy the blm wants to be an icemage.
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  8. #568
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Not a single person gets banned for offering tips in a dungeon. You don't actually believe those people who go post on reddit and say they got banned for "no reason" do you?
    No, but the reception to tips is often cold at best. Sprouts usually are pretty open in my experience but non-sprouts that play horribly bad are rarely open for even the most honest advice. That's the kind of people that are labeled toxic casuals by some here. Sprouts are never the issue and they are usually quite good at the game all things considered. The key factor as always is willingness to learn and trying your best.
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  9. #569
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    You and Ivtrix.
    Another troll obsessed with me (to the point of going off about me on the Balance)
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  10. #570
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Never said it was. It's not news that many of you are out here for your own gain and nothing more. That's your right to be that way. But on the flip side don't turn around and whine about bad players when you yourself haven't been trying to help mend that problem.

    Saying "git gud" like some CoD frat boy doesn't change anything. It only promotes toxicity. Your mindset is one of the reasons you won't ever get official damage meters in game. Sad you don't realize this
    My mindset is the correct one to have. Bad players have chosen to be bad players
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