What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Raoabolic]

The devs and upper mgmt turned out to be closet pervs. Drinking employee breast milk, cube crawling, pushing employees to suicide etc. Blizzard and WoW are truly wholesome products. I wouldn't support them if they were the last development studio on the planet.

Kind of missed the point, lol.
I'm talking about the people who are critical vs the fanboys. Eventually the fanboys will push out the critical ones and then... you know what, just look at every dead MMO that has died due to the IP holders going overboard with greedy/predatory practices. There is a reason why history has been repeating pretty darn hard this last decade.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Just play Chained Echoes. It's like the Endwalker expansion we deserved but didn't get.

[Ranaku]

My problems with the story are almost all revolving around the scions. Who should be put to rest by now but cause of how popular they are ofc we won't ever get rid of catmommy or dadcred or the twins. And how they die each expansion again and again, especially Y'shtola just to magically survive.

My dream is that they actually dump the scions, make them disband and follow their own goals. Yes maybe catch up with them in some sidequests here and there. But please make a fresh start and let us meet really new characters. Some that maybe don't trust us blindly. Some which motives we don't already know. Some that we can explore again and don't know in and out by now.

Cause by hydaelyn if Y'shtola delivers again a exposition speech next patch i will start calling her Morgan Freeman.

[Rolder50]

My dream is that they actually dump the scions, make them disband and follow their own goals. Yes maybe catch up with them in some sidequests here and there. But please make a fresh start and let us meet really new characters. Some that maybe don't trust us blindly. Some which motives we don't already know. Some that we can explore again and don't know in and out by now.

Cause by hydaelyn if Y'shtola delivers again a exposition speech next patch i will start calling her Morgan Freeman.

This is what I was hoping to see for the post expansion story here in EW, but alas not. It's just more of the same.

[Ranaku]

This is what I was hoping to see for the post expansion story here in EW, but alas not. It's just more of the same.

Yeah next patch we get to see the twins again and i fear the next expansion we will just all venture into the void together with our discount Zenos and all our "friends". So much for new beginnings and newfound adventures.

[Graeham]

You are right. New story mean new chara. Should kill off the old chara with the rocks fall and be making the new story with the God King Solus and friends to remake the No Shadow God land. Then can destroy sunder people and make the new mustard race that enjoy the traditional masculine of slice of the life burger scene.

I do not know why all the guild leave but they come back in the patch 63 if you bump the tread once the month when it fall hidden to page 231 of general disgust forum. Keep the belief and light the candle.

[BaconBits]

???

Of all the schticks I've seen on this forum, yours is definitely one of the schticks of all time.

[RyuDragnier]

Yeah next patch we get to see the twins again and i fear the next expansion we will just all venture into the void together with our discount Zenos and all our "friends". So much for new beginnings and newfound adventures.

Unlikely, since Yoshi-P has stated there are no hints whatsoever leading to where we're going for the next expansion, apparently. Meaning hopefully the Void will be wrapped up by 6.4 at the latest and 6.5 will be the game slapping us with events leading to the next expansion.

[Ranaku]

Unlikely, since Yoshi-P has stated there are no hints whatsoever leading to where we're going for the next expansion, apparently. Meaning hopefully the Void will be wrapped up by 6.4 at the latest and 6.5 will be the game slapping us with events leading to the next expansion.

I do hope so, i fear we will go to Meracydia after we saved dragon sis. Still a whole continent unexplored in the source though the Allagans nuked that place and captured all their primals. But i fear it will be somethign Emet spoilered already.

What i would love to see though is just us traveling to another shard, far away from all the scions and meet new people and start as a "new" adventurer to these places. Would be a great opportunity to let the devs run wild and not stick completely to old concepts. Would be nice to see a rather modern shard. Something between Garlemald and the Crystarium maybe.

[shadowclasper]

Couldn't function if everyone who was "wrong" just left, eh?

I mean EW in my opinion just never really resonated with me especially on replay. New characters barely had time to grow before becoming plot devices and you can kinda feel the whole "We had planned two expansions but elected to make this all one so enjoy these clearly would be trial bosses as dungeon bosses instead, also Garlemald resolution will not be seen until X.XX." I wouldn't say that view is terribly "wrong" just different then what most seem to have taken from it. That is how literature works after all, we all take different things from the same story. I did find the overall story really lacking the world/character building polish I am used to from FF14 and almost all of the game post-Elpis just didn't land for me as again characters became plot devices far too rapidly to become invested in any of them as characters. I would still say it is my least favorite expansion even after all this time just due to odd narrative choices and pacing issues during the story. I do wonder how time will reflect on the expansion myself but we have to wait to see on that one.

As for the patch content I want to see where it is all going as it seems thus far rather dull to me and I am hoping for some kind of big event in 6.3 to shake up the plot.

I also imagine it shouldn't be a shock those that took bigger issue with the game's story and possibly other aspects of the game did as Yoshi P. says they can and took a break for an extended period of time.

Never made a claim about who was being wrong, I don't have a horse in this race because I see it as a purely subjective thing, that was sorta the joke.

Enjoyed or not, a story is gonna hit people different, but folks online get so darn defensive over dumb stuff that objectively can't have a right or wrong answer and expend endless energy explaining how their subjective opinion is the only correct one (not saying this is you tbc)

I was poking fun at how ridiculously long thus thread had gotten because of that.