What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[AwesomeJr44]

You have to understand, VelKallor doesnt do ANY content. They only get their opinions from other coping fanboys on reddit and discord.

Sounds about right.

[AwesomeJr44]

Bozja now is more or less a dead zone, with only PF parties running here and there once its current timeframe has elapsed.

it makes sense that SE would put their focus elsewhere.

Isn't Criterion dead already? At least Bozja/Eureka were alive throughout their respective expansions, Endwalker content seems to be DOA more times than not.

And no, a new Criterion dungeon that lasts for a week in 6.45 isn't going to revive the one from 6.25. That one's dead and buried.

[VelKallor]

Despite it being pushed as PvP focused

1. AoC is vaporware. Dont expect ANY kind of hint for a release date until at least 2025..if ever.

2. A sub based full loot open world pvp game has a shelf life of six months, I give it four months before they do a screeching U turn a la New World. if not, they have a maximum of one year before they go buy to play or free to play. Pvp focussed games have high player turnover and low player population - no one pays to be someone elses chew toy.

Within 2 weeks the roving gank squads will be busy driving people away successfully. I cant wait for the lesson to sink in.

I refer you to Josh Strife Hayes videos on the genre.

[BRVV]

As has been discussed in previous threads ( which you didnt read )

Any proof for that claim?

1. AoC is vaporware

Or that one?

[Lauront]

hot vapor

You are completely right that many gameplay features seem to have been abandoned in EW, such as exploratory content. The lack of depth is very clear to see. And as I've explained in another topic, I believe this can have long-term consequences for FF14 if there's an emergent new MMO that really pulls off PvE combat well (the fabled Riot MMO perhaps):

Even if not better at combat, I'm hoping some of the newer/upcoming MMOs eat into XIV's numbers (although I don't think sites like LB are giving an accurate picture of paying subs because there's ways these can be inflated, e.g. through FLCs; we'll see how their Q2 accounts reflect on the game's performance) by being as good/better in other areas, if only to snap SE out of this complacence it's currently mired in. There does come a point (where I'm at, really) where I'd sooner just not play an MMO than play from a selection that just doesn't draw me in in any way.

Problem is a lot of its competitors seem to find ways to self-immolate. I'm hoping Blue Protocol isn't too badly mangled by either of AGS or Namco.

[Theodric]

As I said, I'm remaining cautiously optimistic. The nature of the industry and funding for MMO development has changed over the years and it'll either be a success or it won't be. There's multiple MMO's on the market at the moment which are doing decently well for themselves including WoW, ESO, GW2 and FFXIV. Eventually something else will come along and either dominate the market or at least carve out a comfortable and successful niche for itself. It's just a matter of when.

I'm not particularly married to any given MMO, personally - though any that actually set out to have distinct zones for each playable race and are willing to have good looking, conventionally attractive muscular elven and human men immediately catch my eye.

[VelKallor]

Or that one?

Sure. Easy. Got a release date for me?

And the answer is, fortunately or unfortunately, not for a while. Despite several years of coverage and ongoing updates, the game is currently still in Alpha and we could easily be as far as two years from a real Ashes of Creation release date.

Ashes of Creation has been in Early Access on Steam since 2019. The final game is scheduled for release in 2022 and is currently being migrated to Unreal Engine 5.

One comment on Reddit said that they had a cash shop for cosmetics that rivals Star Citizen.

This is July 2023 , they havent even gotten to stable beta. Ill change my mind when they announced a release date.

[BRVV]

Sure. Easy. Got a release date for me?

FFXV is vaporware confirmed

[Theodric]

Quite a few promising MMO's released too early and suffered as a consequence. Wildstar did a lot of things right, for example, though it released without much in the way of satisfying endgame content and suffered as a consequence. It's a shame, since I liked the art style and some of the lore was pretty intriguing - to say nothing of how great the game's housing system happened to be.

So I'd much rather see Ashes of Creation take its time and launch when it's ready. It'll either succeed as healthy competition or it won't. I'd be a lot more worried if meaningful development updates weren't being shown on a consistent basis and the developers weren't explaining their thought processes for particular design decisions.

[Xeronia]

I will say I saw the new Encyclopedia Eorzea is on pre-order and I am torn on if I should order it. I would love more info about Shadowbringers stuff and zones I liked in Endwalker but I also don't really want to read more "And this is why Venat was right".