Content geared towards FCs

[Saraide]

If were trying to justify the why of it. But I think just giving us more things to do in this game should be encouraged. Heck I mean we have a pretty heated thread about how some folk feel like FFXIV lacks any meaningful lasting content and now suddenly were just discouraging it?

What is being discouraged is very specifically locking this nebulous content behind FC participation. Not the creation of said content. Claiming people are against new content in this thread is dishonest.

[Atelier-Bagur]

What is being discouraged is very specifically locking this nebulous content behind FC participation. Not the creation of said content. Claiming people are against new content in this thread is dishonest.

I understand this, but this still doesnt make any sense. Its almost as if you guys just despise your FC and rather not deal with them like at all. I dont particularly care about the FCs I join myself but Im sure many companies whom like to organize their group for doing fun activities wouldnt mind at all if there was something extra they could do together. Thats literally it. Im not advocating for something HUGE or anything that could be taken full advantage of in terms of power.

This is why Im spewing out how you guys just seem to not want content at all. "Oh we can have content! Just content that only I like"

[Saraide]

I understand this, but this still doesnt make any sense. Its almost as if you guys just despise your FC and rather not deal with them like at all. I dont particularly care about the FCs I join myself but Im sure many companies whom like to organize their group for doing fun activities wouldnt mind at all if there was something extra they could do together. Thats literally it. Im not advocating for something HUGE or anything that could be taken full advantage of in terms of power.

This is why Im spewing out how you guys just seem to not want content at all. "Oh we can have content! Just content that only caters to me"

I'm glad you just essentially admit to being dishonest here.

We are the people saying we only want content catered to us? When you are here specifically asking to have content structures catered to your ideals of what an FC should be and not just be general content?

[Atelier-Bagur]

I'm glad you just essentially admit to being dishonest here.

We are the people saying we only want content catered to us? When you are here specifically asking to have content structures catered to your ideals of what an FC should be and not just be general content?

You do realize that sarcastic quote is meant to you guys how you are all acting right now right? You seem to only care if they implement content as long as you somehow able to participate it in. This game already has content that I normally wouldnt be able to do if I dont want to put in the extra effort. Oh I cant do Ultimates unless I clear all savages and get into a static for it, Oh well, thats not for me but nice that there's a little something extra for the people whove put in that extra effort to do THAT CONTENT.

[Saraide]

You do realize that sarcastic quote is meant to you guys how you are all acting right now right? You seem to only care if they implement content as long as you somehow able to participate it in. This game already has content that I normally wouldnt be able to do if I dont want to put in the extra effort. Oh I cant do Ultimates unless I clear all savages and get into a static for it, Oh well, thats not for me but nice that there's a little something extra for the people whove put in that extra effort to do THAT CONTENT.

I realize you were trying to be sarcastic. That was obvious. You still meant what you said. Saying it in a snippy way doesnt change that.

[MonteCristo]

You do realize that sarcastic quote is meant to you guys how you are all acting right now right? You seem to only care if they implement content as long as you somehow able to participate it in. This game already has content that I normally wouldnt be able to do if I dont want to put in the extra effort. Oh I cant do Ultimates unless I clear all savages and get into a static for it, Oh well, thats not for me but nice that there's a little something extra for the people whove put in that extra effort to do THAT CONTENT.

To his point...there is alot of gated content in one way or another that requires far more effort to participate in. Joining an FC is not difficult to do also giving groups content to have fun doing that is aimed at guilds banding together (if implemented consciously) could really breathe life into the community and really end up being fun but we cant fathom that because were worried about a "gate"?? Come on....I've defended this game for over 10 years and this is literally one of the reasons why our community gets clowned (not that it matters but ijs).....a little soft to be brutally honest.

[Vidu]

To his point...there is alot of gated content in one way or another that requires far more effort to participate in. Joining an FC is not difficult to do also giving groups content to have fun doing that is aimed at guilds banding together (if implemented consciously) could really breathe life into the community and really end up being fun but we cant fathom that because were worried about a "gate"?? Come on....I've defended this game for over 10 years and this is literally one of the reasons why our community gets clowned (not that it matters but ijs).....a little soft to be brutally honest.

While joining (or creating) an FC is indeed not difficult, organising content for and with that FC always will be - no matter if its content designed only for FCs or the content we already have that can be done with people from your FC.
Content that is designed to help you band together will still require you to make plans to actually play together - just as the content we have now. It also leaves a lot of room to achieve the absolute opposite by "forcing" you to exclude people from said content because its always going to support only a limited number of people. Or you'll have so many different schedudles to work with that naturally you'll have to tell the nightshift-guy "Sorry, maybe next time" if the rest of you can make 8pm. Unless of course you have content like FC-credits that does not require people to actively play together in the first place...

[Raven2014]

Its almost as if you guys just despise your FC and rather not deal with them like at all.

THat's only because you have a very narrow view of it.

I own a house, that doesn't stop me from thinking making gardening and crossbreeding "exclusive" to people with a house a bad idea. If housing is something that readily accessible than that's a different story, but alas it is not.

This is why Im spewing out how you guys just seem to not want content at all. "Oh we can have content! Just content that only I like"

Again, this is an ironic take.

- Free access content: anyone can do it, with or without FC. There is nothing stopping an FC from adopting it and do it together with its member.
- Exclusive content: no one allowed to do it unless they're part of an FC.

I don't know if you're realizing it or actually doing it on purpose. But you're projecting and twisting your own selfishness to make it sounds like it's other people problem.

[Atelier-Bagur]

THat's only because you have a very narrow view of it.

I own a house, that doesn't stop me from thinking making gardening and crossbreeding "exclusive" to people with a house a bad idea. If housing is something that readily accessible than that's a different story, but alas it is not.





Again, this is an ironic take.

- Free access content: anyone can do it, with or without FC. There is nothing stopping an FC from adopting it and do it together with its member.
- Exclusive content: no one allowed to do it unless they're part of an FC.

I don't know if you're realizing it or actually doing it on purpose. But you're projecting and twisting your own selfishness to make it sounds like it's other people problem.

Gardening and Housing is not an example I would use for what Im debating for and its disingenous. The structure of that content is super limiting for what you can do due to its nature of it not being able to be available for every player. FCs are something anybody can easily join. There's no shortage of groups that wont take in players so having something extra that you can do with your FC for that FC isnt terrible at all. Its just there if people want to participate or not. Oh how terrible that must be :v