Content geared towards FCs

[MonteCristo]

They dont even have to make a content specifically for FC to make people in FC do contents together. Increased rewards will be enough but I would love it if theres a new content geared towards FC

But yeah FC in this game has always been more like a social group anyway. You join an FC and most of the time they have a voice chat group somewhere while the FC chat itself is very quiet. Its annoying really.

Outside of housing, there is no difference between FC and CWLS, and maybe FC tag in your name. Thats all theres to it.

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie. Not an unreasonable suggestion I'm genuinely confused at the resistance.

[Saraide]

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie. Not an unreasonable suggestion I'm genuinely confused at the resistance.

You are facing resistance specifically for the FC lock you are proposing. You can just have normal content and do it with your FC if your FC is interested. Plenty of FCs already do community stuff.

[VerdeLuck]

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie. Not an unreasonable suggestion I'm genuinely confused at the resistance.

You can already do things with your FC without taking content and gatekeeping it from people without an active FC. Just do it. Schedule raid nights, schedule MINE runs, social events, etc. Nothing is stopping it from happenning. You just want there to be content that only you can do and other people can't. Nobody wants that. All of the other content you listed is possible both as a group or solo. None of it is gatekept behind a requirement of having an active FC of at least a certain size that actively runs the content to get your reward.

[caffe_macchiato]

You just want there to be content that only you can do and other people can't.

What do you mean, "other people can't"? FCs are a core part of game design, just like every other piece of content in the game. There's nothing stopping you from joining an FC.

Schedule raid nights, schedule MINE runs, social events, etc.

Except many people don't want to do those. There's a reason why "the drought" has become a prevailing topic on this board and across the game. People don't want to re-run old content or make custom parties out of boredom. They'd rather play other games instead. And while it's a shame that people need a carrot on a stick in order to play FFXIV, it would greatly benefit this game's population if we had FC content. It's like how we have roulettes for leveling dungeons so that sprouts can have a chance to play them. We need something to get communities active again, and MINE runs aren't going to cut it.

[Saraide]

What do you mean, "other people can't"? FCs are a core part of game design, just like every other piece of content in the game. There's nothing stopping you from joining an FC.


Except many people don't want to do those. There's a reason why "the drought" has become a prevailing topic on this board and across the game. People don't want to re-run old content or make custom parties out of boredom. They'd rather play other games instead. And while it's a shame that people need a carrot on a stick in order to play FFXIV, it would greatly benefit this game's population if we had FC content. It's like how we have roulettes for leveling dungeons so that sprouts can have a chance to play them. We need something to get communities active again, and MINE runs aren't going to cut it.

Then run new content with your FC as it releases?

[caffe_macchiato]

Then run new content with your FC as it releases?

New content only comes out every four months (at best). And eventually, new content becomes old content. I'm not asking them to double their budgets and give us more raids, story content, etc. But we need something repeatable and social so that communities can survive the hard times we inevitably have every patch cycle. Something like an eight-man deep dungeon, V&C, treasure, or fishing venture with FC rewards that can't simply be "finished" and thrown away like most patch content.

MMOs should not be seasonal. They should not be in a drought state for eight months out of the year. We cannot sustain communities like that.

[Jeeqbit]

For the argument about MINE, the vast majority of players now were not around for a lot of old content. If you were around in ARR, HW or even Stormblood, great, so was I, but I don't pretend like we are a majority anymore. Whereas the active players were 300,000 to 600,000 then (Lucky Bancho before 4.3), there are up to a million more active players at any given few month period than there were back then (Lucky Bancho latest) and we can't pretend that some of those people from back then didn't quit or take a very long break that they haven't returned from yet.

The problem with discussing MINE in reference to hard content is that most people just want to unsync it. They don't see themselves good enough for it, or they don't have the time for hard content and the associated difficulty of finding a good party, or they just don't want to do something that is regarded as old even though they didn't experience it. A lot of people don't even know what MINE is or understand that these fights actually have mechanics, or how the sync system works. One way or another, the MINE community is very small, but an FC might drag some people into it who would otherwise be too anxious to try.

Something like an eight-man deep dungeon, V&C, treasure, or fishing venture with FC rewards that can't simply be "finished" and thrown away like most patch content.

How about deep dungeons, V&C, treasure and ocean fishing itself? All of these have rewards you can get from doing it a lot instead of just doing it once and I've always seen FCs doing this sort of content even during less active periods.

If content can't be finished, then it's either going to be an endless grind or the lack of reward will make it pointless. Either way, there is no point in doing it then.

[Jeeqbit]

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie.

Then do the content that encourages camaraderie that other FCs do.

Treasure Map parties, mount farm events, RP events, house decorating, if it's big enough do an alliance raid together. Plenty of FCs run events for all the different content in the game and don't have this problem. It's when there is nobody who sets up events that the FC doesn't do anything.

[MonteCristo]

Then do the content that encourages camaraderie that other FCs do.

Treasure Map parties, mount farm events, RP events, house decorating, if it's big enough do an alliance raid together. Plenty of FCs run events for all the different content in the game and don't have this problem. It's when there is nobody who sets up events that the FC doesn't do anything.

Fluff content doesn't move all players...if i was asking about fluff, adding a hairstyle, or something glamour related I'm 90% sure the responses would all be supportive. General consensus seems to be we dont want it locked behind fc meanwhile if implemented correctly it could be a invigorating change to spark more life into the deadness that is absolutely felt by many FCs across all data centers. When did our community get so afraid of innovation? Its always no dont touch anything the game is perfect as is for many things that are suggested.

[Deveryn]

Fluff content doesn't move all players...if i was asking about fluff, adding a hairstyle, or something glamour related I'm 90% sure the responses would all be supportive. General consensus seems to be we dont want it locked behind fc meanwhile if implemented correctly it could be a invigorating change to spark more life into the deadness that is absolutely felt by many FCs across all data centers. When did our community get so afraid of innovation? Its always no dont touch anything the game is perfect as is for many things that are suggested.

It's not fear of innovation. It's the glaring lack of possibilities for SE to find something to fill this alleged gap in content. Nothing is perfect, but nothing is broken either. If you want your FC to have more to do, take some initiative (and see who sticks around).