Content geared towards FCs

[Avoidy]

I think they were mostly talking about FC House 'Rooms'. Which isn't really worry-free tbh. I've seen FCs explode and you lose the 300k + room deco, and I've had to explode other people's rooms. We just need more and larger apartments, and give them a balcony for gardening and other shiz. Not more Wards.

But FC Housing shouldn't compete as a better version of Solo Housing. That's the problem here. Giving additional features because it's an FC house is just bad FOMO design and only encourages players to create Solo FCs. It's like if we only allowed FCs to Treasure Hunt, people would make solo FCs just for that. So whatever if they want a Solo FC fine, but when it's designed to also mechanically take away from the Solo players as well (FC Housing), then it's bad.

Yeah I agree on all of that, 100%.
Not being sarcastic either, like I genuinely have nothing to add. The current system is not good from an incentives standpoint and just pushes people to engage in solo activity that hurts community building efforts.

[Deveryn]

Housing space that they generally can't even decorate. Whereas if you went the solo FC route, you could simply purchase your own home and have the full range of decorative ability. I will grant you this: with demolition returning, the "worry free" aspect does become relevant, but in my experience most people would rather have their own solo fc home that they can decorate without consideration for anyone else, even if it comes with some worries, over a "community FC" home that just exists and was already decorated by someone else and requires a specific rank to decorate and every change you make might upset others who liked the house as it was, etc. etc.

The rest of your post, I'll just say this. Having come from MMOs with these systems, neither of them had people being kicked for inactivity. Maybe you experienced differently though.

You can still decorate your own space in an FC house when you pick up private quarters. I recently learned you can get 512 private quarters inside an FC house, so there's another reason the housing system isn't likely to change. It seems a shame that people waste that potential space on having their own FC plot. If you feel the need to decorate a full sized house, that's something you might consider doing elsewhere. Eorzea might be a better place if you had more leadership that didn't just invest in the houses to satisfy their decoration fetish.

As for the politics of FCs, I've been part of groups in other games that require regular contributions, whether it's attending raids or contributing to upkeep of the house. On here, I've heard of people being kicked for less / nothing at all. I have a nice quiet FC where people just login and play the game. I have no desire to see any kind of carrot dangling off my FC.

[R041]

I recently learned you can get 512 private quarters inside an FC house

Yep, it really is the dumbest shit.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Private_Chamber
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Apartments

How the fuck are Apartments limited and only Small, when we can have basically infinite FC Rooms? Apartment Buildings can only hold 90. What kinda backwards bullshit is this? I can go own an Apartment, House, FC House, AND FC Room - All on the same character. So why can't we just own 1 Med/Large Apartment with a Patio?

And just to prove it, my dumbass did just that.



I want to blame Yoshi here, but SE also has the majority of the NFT brain rot. This is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard. It really is just corporate generated FOMO at this point.

[R041]

As long as it doesn't need an FC house. Whoever thought adding large gil making content for FCs to housing, then make that housing compete with other FCs and even Solos.. Then also give Large houses more garden space. It's literally begging for snowbally wealth and exploitation. This shit is just gift wrapping power-gamers that sub to have whole wards of solo FCs just generating gil. Praising FOMO like this, no wonder SE loves NFTs. lol

Please SE, move this stuff outside of housing. You shouldn't need a House to have an FC Workshop, it's not like you can even deco it.

[GTK0HLK]

Maybe they'll make changes and adjustments when they plan to update the GCs..,<don't recall if they ever mention, what, when, and if about that. I personally felt like it was a given in the future for them to update> Seeing as they are Adjacent to each other(both FCs and GCs.., maybe even changes to note the story effects, without spoiling)

They can add content to FCs without giving people reason to feel like it alienates players without FC/s, or in different FCs.<and maybe repurpose some of that allowing other FCs and players to partake if one FC opens it up. you know those large FCs always posting ads will want to lure people in with that.>

and even if SE does head towards a solo able MSQ that doesn't mean it stops them from improving or implementing their Multiple Player Contents, and FC content.
<We've had this back and forth between others before. Complaining that it's to restrictive against solo players forced to do Multi-player, and then the game been pushed to Soloable to shut down any positive change.>

There's no harm so far if they make it be open to all in some form.<Maybe FCs get a nice Bonus/Chunk Reward, but that would be it. depending on how much the FC has in Resources/Land. but of course balances would have to be made. like once per account. would definitely sting multiple FC owners/Alters.> and as some mentioned, with the OG Diadem, Give some incentive to invite players from other/without FCs to join.<Specially since not all FCs are large, and depending on the content available, IF They add a Variance at some point, some FCs may need assistance to fill out left over spaces, or optional spaces.>

but again, thinking over how something that doesn't exist could work. and not step on any sides toes without resorting to x proves y wrong so z could never be like some intentionally or unintentionally do.

[Jeeqbit]

Any plans to ever incorporate group content based on FCs banding together to tackle content as a group? FCs kinda feel like social groups more than real guilds just my two gil.

That's almost all the content in the game because almost all the content in the game can be tackled by FCs (and are by some).

The only reason to restrict a content to FCs specifically would be to exclude people whose FCs can't do it or who aren't in one and to restrict activities to homeworlds (which Yoshi-P is against, he ended the game and re-released it with a new engine just so we could do content across worlds and therefore not with an FC). It's not a smart business decision to do any of this.

There is some content that only an FC can do which is voyages. This is almost the only content I don't ever intend to do because I don't want to go and create an FC just to do that and that proves my point that it excludes people.

[NekoMataMata]

They should really do this. Just update FCs so that they can operate in any server or dc. Then they can finally give FCs a purpose besides buffs or being a way to make money for the ranks in it.

[Hanayumi]

nope. SE wants to please those players with irl hardworking jobs that only have few hours of game time. and also solo players

Sooo... Japan...

[VerdeLuck]

Gating content behind mandatory FCs seems like a terrible idea. The FCs/Guilds in this game are already a breath of fresh air since you can just leave at any time without risking progression or the ability to do content, unlike other MMOs. FCs have plenty of content they can do already, they just have to plan and organize it themselves because SE doesn't section off certain features and say "woah hang on you have to be in an active FC of at least x number of players to do this content".

[MonteCristo]

Gating content behind mandatory FCs seems like a terrible idea. The FCs/Guilds in this game are already a breath of fresh air since you can just leave at any time without risking progression or the ability to do content, unlike other MMOs. FCs have plenty of content they can do already, they just have to plan and organize it themselves because SE doesn't section off certain features and say "woah hang on you have to be in an active FC of at least x number of players to do this content".

If the content is optional and invigorates FCs to band together outside of 90% of content that can nearly be done solo/PF whats the issue?