Savage loot lockout should be removed when an ultimate is released

[RyuDragnier]

The savage fight should unlock 8 weeks after release.

Its a simple solution. If you actually care about the content you will have cleared by then, and have BiS gear in Week 8.

There is no logical reason to hardlock the instance and loot after 8 weeks, People want to gear multiple jobs and cant.

You do realize not everybody can just spend every waking hour of this game in raid, right? And some people learn certain mechanics faster than others.

[Ivtrix]

You do realize not everybody can just spend every waking hour of this game in raid, right? And some people learn certain mechanics faster than others.

most people in this game raid 12-16 hours a week

and still clear relatively quickly.

[RyuDragnier]

most people in this game raid 12-16 hours a week

and still clear relatively quickly.

I have yet to meet those people. Most raiders I've met do 6-8 hours a week, and depending on how well their group learns things, have either cleared by week 8, or take as long as the full patch. Luck with static members also comes into play there.

Using my group as an example, last tier we had a revolving door of members in P3S for a full month and a half before things finally settled down (due to people faking credentials, high horse attitudes, having to retrain and resync with new people, etc). It's not like we didn't clear the previous fights quickly either, we cleared P1S after 2 weeks of practice, and P2S the next 2 weeks after that. And this tier is far worse than last tier mechanically too.

Expecting everybody serious about it to clear the tier in 8 weeks is...well, pretty elitist thinking.

[Ransu]

most people in this game raid 12-16 hours a week

and still clear relatively quickly.

I mean...unless its week 1 and you're racing to clear, 12-16 hours a week seems kind of excessive, but then again I don't pug so I dunno. Most statics I've been in usually have a window of around 2 hours on raid nights and raid 3 or 4 nights a week.

But I mean, its kinda true? Most of the people Ive encountered or raided are just as casual as I'm with jobs and hectic irl schedules and responsibilities that keep them away from playing games. This isnt the early 2000s anymore with this generation of MMO players.

Which is why FFXIV's raid philosophy actually is favorable amongst the general populace.

This lol. I'm not a teenage anymore. I'm too damn old to be hunting HNM's with 36 hour spawn timers in FFXI. No matter how much I loved that game I MUCH prefer the end game of FFXIV now a days.