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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Over the Top Hyperbole such as: "The Devs hate MCH"
    Is not constructive or help anything.

    I think the issue with Machinist is its damage output, despite kinda being The Physical-Ranged "Selfish DPS"
    But I think Ive been hearing Ranger Jobs all have this issue, a "tax" or something, Im forgetting what it was called.
    So get rid of this 'Tax' and better damage and BAM, problem solved.

    Also...Bring back Stormblood Machinist.
    I miss that.
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I think the issue with Machinist is its damage output, despite kinda being The Physical-Ranged "Selfish DPS"
    But I think Ive been hearing Ranger Jobs all have this issue, a "tax" or something, Im forgetting what it was called.
    So get rid of this 'Tax' and better damage and BAM, problem solved.
    Frankly, what you said here is what never sits right in my mind about the entire role. From what I understood they shipped Physical Ranged DPS to be geared more as a 'support'. This holds true for BRD and DNC so far, but not MCH whose kits are almost entirely selfish outside Tactician.

    It's just... odd. Kinda like SE is trying to achieve too much but accomplishing nothing, if it makes any sense at all...
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    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Also...Bring back Stormblood Machinist.
    I miss that.
    No thank you, that is the reason why I main BRD instead of MCH on SB, because the heated opener is so annoying to use and the RNG is so bad and mostly relying on the bullets.

    I prefer HW's Gun Mage though
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    Last edited by Knot_D; 12-27-2022 at 02:05 PM.

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    Rokke's Avatar
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I prefer HW's Gun Mage though
    Gunmage was best MCH era.
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    Echo Micacho
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    Raiden
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Over the Top Hyperbole such as: "The Devs hate MCH"
    Is not constructive or help anything.

    I think the issue with Machinist is its damage output, despite kinda being The Physical-Ranged "Selfish DPS"
    But I think Ive been hearing Ranger Jobs all have this issue, a "tax" or something, Im forgetting what it was called.
    So get rid of this 'Tax' and better damage and BAM, problem solved.

    Also...Bring back Stormblood Machinist.
    I miss that.
    Over the top hyberbole is tho what gets people to talk!

    And it is true nonetheless, MCH is still full of anti player and toxic game designs while all other jobs got their "problems" more or less fixed. Like why is MCH one of the only jobs that still has to deal with cone aoes? Or not being able to cast flamethrower while moving? Or the job being barely playable with bad ping, which i don't have but i heard many people complain about that.

    And the results of that neglect stand also, MCH is one of the least played jobs and mostly just picked for obviously personal preferences and not cause it is rewarding in any way. SE basically punishes MCH with bad damage and a harder rotation while other jobs do more damage, are easier to play and bring more utility to the table. So it's no wonder that players pick other jobs rather than MCH.

    And when players already get frequently kicked out of groups for playing MCH or get told to pick dancer instead well then i think it is fair to say that the devs actually despise MCH cause their only answer is always a subtle increase to potency and for that weirdly always wildfire. And then you see other jobs get overhauled, pushed to the top like monk and MCH suffers from expansion to expansion without any end in sight.

    Regarding the ranged tax, for other ranged dps this is mitigated by utility which MCH has absolutely none to give. So MCH should deal actually as much as the other selfish dps jobs but for whatever reason MCH deals sometimes even less damage than jobs that aren't selfish dps jobs.
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