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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    So, basically, unlike every other Job, if I can't do it I just can forget about progressing the story?
    Not everything has to be handed to players, if you are unable to clear it and are not willing to put in the effort to improve so you can clear it. This is not a matter of need, it is a matter of want. Expect you want it without having to try because it is too hard. Not every aspect of the game as to be assessable to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Not everything has to be handed to players, if you are unable to clear it and are not willing to put in the effort to improve so you can clear it. This is not a matter of need, it is a matter of want. Expect you want it without having to try because it is too hard. Not every aspect of the game as to be assessable to everyone.
    Like I said, I don't want it to be face roll easy, just not be as hard. And I also said that clearing those 3 in an "easy" mode would not count for things like Perfect Blue nor Totems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    Like I said, I don't want it to be face roll easy, just not be as hard. And I also said that clearing those 3 in an "easy" mode would not count for things like Perfect Blue nor Totems.
    As mentioned not all content has to be assemble to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    As mentioned not all content has to be assemble to everyone.
    The thing is, you know from the get go that Extreme Trials and Savage Raids (level synced, of course) are gonna be extra difficult. The average player isn't gonna know from the start that Masked Carnival is gonna be difficult and not have the advantages of other Jobs like the Echo if you die in a mission and then chose "Easy Mode". Can be frustrating, and can make you wish you hadn't waste time on leveling Blue Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    So, basically, unlike every other Job, if I can't do it I just can forget about progressing the story?
    Blue Mage is not critical path content. It is optional, side content. Not everything in this game needs or should be handed to you on a platter, free of effort. I'd argue the MSQ is already too generous in that regard and it's lead to behavioral problems like the one you're exhibiting here - you encounter something that isn't just handed to you with only a token effort and you're demanding it be changed so you don't have to invest any effort in.

    None of these encounters are particularly challenging. If you're going for the optional, achievement runs (which have a variety of requirements), you're approaching the lower end of Ex difficulty, but for just clearing them for the sake of story/progress? It's not hard.

    You might be missing some spells that would make things easier. Blue Mage expects you to go out and get spells. Use Party Finder to arrange for dungeon, raid, and trial groups. Blue Mage groups are fun and an interesting way to revisit tired old content. I'd advise hopping to the Crystal datacenter, as that's where Blue Academy is based and so most dedicated BLU players will default to starting there.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    The thing is, you know from the get go that Extreme Trials and Savage Raids (level synced, of course) are gonna be extra difficult. The average player isn't gonna know from the start that Masked Carnival is gonna be difficult and not have the advantages of other Jobs like the Echo if you die in a mission and then chose "Easy Mode". Can be frustrating, and can make you wish you hadn't waste time on leveling Blue Mage.
    Can be, but remember blue mage content is not primary content. BLU content has an investment you need to commit to. The content itself is not exactly challenging per-se either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    Blue Mage is not critical path content. It is optional, side content. Not everything in this game needs or should be handed to you on a platter, free of effort. I'd argue the MSQ is already too generous in that regard and it's lead to behavioral problems like the one you're exhibiting here - you encounter something that isn't just handed to you with only a token effort and you're demanding it be changed so you don't have to invest any effort in.

    None of these encounters are particularly challenging. If you're going for the optional, achievement runs (which have a variety of requirements), you're approaching the lower end of Ex difficulty, but for just clearing them for the sake of story/progress? It's not hard.

    You might be missing some spells that would make things easier. Blue Mage expects you to go out and get spells. Use Party Finder to arrange for dungeon, raid, and trial groups. Blue Mage groups are fun and an interesting way to revisit tired old content. I'd advise hopping to the Crystal datacenter, as that's where Blue Academy is based and so most dedicated BLU players will default to starting there.
    I have said repeatedly, I don't expect it to be face roll, just slightly more forgiving. Cause it always at the end of the fight that I tend to reach my problems, and it can get very frustrating having to start all over from the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    I have said repeatedly, I don't expect it to be face roll, just slightly more forgiving. Cause it always at the end of the fight that I tend to reach my problems, and it can get very frustrating having to start all over from the beginning.
    At the core do you see you are asking for content to become easier because you are getting frustrated, and instead of adapting and pushing through you think it should be handed to you. Since easy mode ia faceroll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    I think it's fair enough to expect that you can complete the story content of a job quest line before you hit the content that really challenges your skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    I think you misunderstood, I do know the fight, it's the execution, and it's usually the tiniest of errors, like not making out of an Aoe by a fraction of a second during the later parts of the fights. Also, do you know any other word phrase "git gud"? As a player who has gotten all achievements in Bloodborne and Elden Ring that phrase NEVER helped me get better at those games, and won't help me get better here.
    It's like the fight is static or something...learn it, git gud
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