New winter glam for mogstation and not xmas event

[DPZ2]

Seeing all the people defend a cash shop in a game with a subscription really puts things into prospective. No wonder game companies can get away with what they do. Loot boxes were so passively accepted governments had to get involved. What a sad state of affairs, oh well. At least I can get that sweet dopamine hit for only 18 units of currency!

Cash shops are voluntary, subscription or not. Plenty of games have both a cash shop and a 'get bonuses when you play' pseudo-subscription. That has been the model for Korean MMORPGs for ages. Almost every 'free to play' game I've ever played uses that same model.

You absolutely haven't played the gacha games that rose from those cute little capsule-toy vending machines you find everywhere in the Akihabara district in Tokyo if you think monetization of game play isn't a thing.

The remedy is clear. Stop paying a subscription for games with cash shops.

Or don't, because we don't have to purchase items from a cash shop.

No one is defending cash shops. If anything, we're defending the game developers who never seem to get a break from players who whine that "X isn't an in-game reward" when X was created outside of the game specifically for sale on said cash shop.

[Doc_Seraph]

To be honest kupo <3 if you are deciding on that purchase solely based on the amount I would suggest other priorities. kupo <3 if it is just based on looks that is a different story and do what makes you happy kupo <3

Don't starve yourself or kill a bill just for glam is what I am pointing at kupo <3 lol

[Iscah]

It doesn't take much dev awareness to just give people a santa themed outfit and an indoor tree for a christmas event, is all I'm saying. "Standard" was the wrong word, I'll own up to that, but go look in the cash shop at all the 3 dollar outfits and furniture from past xmas events and compare it to this year's. Santa outfits, reindeer gear, snowman suits, antlers with a nose that /visors on and off, christmas trees that go -in- your house and actually look like traditional xmas trees, some even have snow on the branches and stuff -- and then compare it to this.

That's the thing, though. They already gave us those items. We don't need a Christmas tree because it's already in the game; we don't need a Santa hat because it's already in the game (and usually going for decent marketboard prices still). I would rather they do different things. I like the idea of those trees and I don't see why a winter tree looking like trees from a wintery zone is particularly a negative (or avoidable even if they made this one from scratch).

The reindeer could do with some kind of collar or saddle or something, though. It looks too plain for a seasonal mount.

[Deveryn]

No one is defending cash shops. If anything, we're defending the game developers who never seem to get a break from players who whine that "X isn't an in-game reward" when X was created outside of the game specifically for sale on said cash shop.

Louder for the people in the back.

[Raoabolic]

Cash shops are voluntary, subscription or not. Plenty of games have both a cash shop and a 'get bonuses when you play' pseudo-subscription. That has been the model for Korean MMORPGs for ages. Almost every 'free to play' game I've ever played uses that same model.

You absolutely haven't played the gacha games that rose from those cute little capsule-toy vending machines you find everywhere in the Akihabara district in Tokyo if you think monetization of game play isn't a thing.

The remedy is clear. Stop paying a subscription for games with cash shops.

Or don't, because we don't have to purchase items from a cash shop.

No one is defending cash shops. If anything, we're defending the game developers who never seem to get a break from players who whine that "X isn't an in-game reward" when X was created outside of the game specifically for sale on said cash shop.

You could have just said "Just unsub, hater!". It would have saved you a lot of effort. :/
Cash shops are corporate greed baked into a game. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that fact. Besides, I know about gatcha games. I bought pokemon blue when it came out and my friend got red so we can get all 150 of them.

[LittleImp]

To be honest kupo <3 if you are deciding on that purchase solely based on the amount I would suggest other priorities. kupo <3 if it is just based on looks that is a different story and do what makes you happy kupo <3

Don't starve yourself or kill a bill just for glam is what I am pointing at kupo <3 lol

Lmao, the cloyingly fake positivity paired with you implying people who care about this are poor is just too much.

FF14 truly is a mystical place.

[Avoidy]

That's the thing, though. They already gave us those items. We don't need a Christmas tree because it's already in the game; we don't need a Santa hat because it's already in the game (and usually going for decent marketboard prices still). I would rather they do different things. I like the idea of those trees and I don't see why a winter tree looking like trees from a wintery zone is particularly a negative (or avoidable even if they made this one from scratch).

That's a completely separate issue. I would argue that those items might as well not be in the game if you missed out on those events, since the only way to get them is to fork over money. There's no option to take advantage of past events. If you want an indoor tree this year, your options are to hand millions of gil to a hoarder, or pay square five bucks. This isn't even the main point of the conversation though; the point is that past events had nice stuff that anyone could use, and this year's event is really only useful to a homeowner, with a reindeer mount that'll get as much use as any other mount (i.e. not much, unless you spend all of your time outside major cities/towns). Seasonal outfits can be used anywhere, by anyone; an indoor tree can be used by anyone with any kind of home at all. I'm tired of returning to the point of "well I like the tree." Whether or not you personally like the tree is moot; most people can't even use it, and that's the bigger issue. Compare that to past events, where it had costumes that anyone could wear. Furniture that people with apartments could utilize. etc.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

That's a completely separate issue. I would argue that those items might as well not be in the game if you missed out on those events, since the only way to get them is to fork over money. There's no option to take advantage of past events. If you want an indoor tree this year, your options are to hand millions of gil to a hoarder, or pay square five bucks. This isn't even the main point of the conversation though; the point is that past events had nice stuff that anyone could use, and this year's event is really only useful to a homeowner, with a reindeer mount that'll get as much use as any other mount (i.e. not much, unless you spend all of your time outside major cities/towns). Seasonal outfits can be used anywhere, by anyone; an indoor tree can be used by anyone with any kind of home at all. I'm tired of returning to the point of "well I like the tree." Whether or not you personally like the tree is moot; most people can't even use it, and that's the bigger issue. Compare that to past events, where it had costumes that anyone could wear. Furniture that people with apartments could utilize. etc.

The original Santa outfit is sellable on the market board and anyone who completed the event can get them from the calamity salvager. There are always posts every year of people giving out tons of them for free (they cost like, 120gil each)

[Voltyblast]

I wished it was more expensive honestly...after all, it's optional, right?

Square can do whatever they want with its content, right?

People can do whatever they want with their money, right?

Just don't buy, right?

And before anyone says anything, I know this is bad but let's be really honest, people will buy it anyway and beg for more. We know the game by now.

...but seriously it should be more expensive. Would've loved to see people defending THAT!

[AnnRam]

Cash shops are voluntary, subscription or not. Plenty of games have both a cash shop and a 'get bonuses when you play' pseudo-subscription. That has been the model for Korean MMORPGs for ages. Almost every 'free to play' game I've ever played uses that same model.

You absolutely haven't played the gacha games that rose from those cute little capsule-toy vending machines you find everywhere in the Akihabara district in Tokyo if you think monetization of game play isn't a thing.

The remedy is clear. Stop paying a subscription for games with cash shops.

Or don't, because we don't have to purchase items from a cash shop.

No one is defending cash shops. If anything, we're defending the game developers who never seem to get a break from players who whine that "X isn't an in-game reward" when X was created outside of the game specifically for sale on said cash shop.

Are you telling us FFXIV Event are in pair with Genshin ones?.
What we even got for voting in the VGA of this year? nothing as usual, not even a single email/moogle saying " hey thank you for at least staying sub xd here take a minion"

People like you should try and play other games. FFXIV throw you a bone every 4-5 months and you are happy with it.