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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    We get so little because people can barely handle even that much without losing their minds. Surely you saw the threads about what Island Sanctuary was "going to be" and how disappointed people were when they were certain it would be like that. Now imagine they gave us a more detailed plan and explanation for one of the upcoming changes... That patch day comes and things aren't as they were originally told. All hell breaks loose because "you promised us".
    I'm more referring to combat / job changes, such as that of Kaiten's removal, or why they couldn't simply make button consolidation conditional instead of bouncing back and forth between the likes of High Jump<->Mirage Dive.

    Conveying the scale/scope of new content is, kind of notoriously, different.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I'm more referring to combat / job changes, such as that of Kaiten's removal, or why they couldn't simply make button consolidation conditional instead of bouncing back and forth between the likes of High Jump<->Mirage Dive.

    Conveying the scale/scope of new content is, kind of notoriously, different.
    I know what you're referring to. They've actually gotten better at least explaining things after the fact. Job guides now feature more transparency regarding changes.

    High Jump went back to the way it was because of a lot of feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I know what you're referring to. They've actually gotten better at least explaining things after the fact. Job guides now feature more transparency regarding changes.

    High Jump went back to the way it was because of a lot of feedback.
    Glad they ignore SAM and Healer who complain since 6.1 and 6.0 then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Glad they ignore SAM and Healer who complain since 6.1 and 6.0 then.
    SAM is fine. Healers ... sometimes cause disbands for memeing too hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    For XIV lets talk about how they have forgetten systems like Deep dungeons[I know they are adding a new one, but they could have easily kept the old ones updated with rewards]
    DD are there for the xp and glams. They award current tomes. What updates do you feel they need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    SAM is fine. Healers ... sometimes cause disbands for memeing too hard.
    Idk people complain to get Kaiten back, Yet Dev never adressed this issues, despite the fact they ''probe forum for feedback.''

    Healer complain cause their roles just ain't designed in a way that fit with the rest of the game. People also complain that they got stripped of their class personality.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Idk people complain to get Kaiten back, Yet Dev never adressed this issues, despite the fact they ''probe forum for feedback.''

    Healer complain cause their roles just ain't designed in a way that fit with the rest of the game. People also complain that they got stripped of their class personality.
    There's also the possibility that they dont just listen to everything people say here. Of course if a problem is very, very, VERY bad that warrants attention then that will be something they will work into. But stuff like Kaiten and healers as much as we meme on it (as a Kaiten lover myself) unless its something that just completely breaks the whole system then they'll most likely not care about resolving it. Its kinda how feedback works really, you dont just do what everybody tells you to do, you take whatever feedback given to fit to work with the intended design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    There's also the possibility that they dont just listen to everything people say here. Of course if a problem is very, very, VERY bad that warrants attention then that will be something they will work into. But stuff like Kaiten and healers as much as we meme on it (as a Kaiten lover myself) unless its something that just completely breaks the whole system then they'll most likely not care about resolving it. Its kinda how feedback works really, you dont just do what everybody tells you to do, you take whatever feedback given to fit to work with the intended design.
    You mean like how everyone's been complaining about other players having an easy access to actively stalk and harass others? Use stuff like a wedding ring after the 'divorce', or add them as a friend and know where they are and teleport to their estate even after they're blocked?

    That's been a thing forever, we see massive threads about it constantly still to this day, yet nothing done and barely any discussion about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    SAM is fine. Healers ... sometimes cause disbands for memeing too hard.



    DD are there for the xp and glams. They award current tomes. What updates do you feel they need?
    I would add in up to date cosmetics, as well as unique cosmetics to DDs that would encourage players to do it more, the potsherds would serve an even bigger purpose and doing the more challenging content would reward more. Hell add in more mounts, titles, make use of our achievement system more. It can easily go a long way for both PoTD and HoH to have themed sets unique to their aesthetics. and it would be great for players lvling and players there for glam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    I would add in up to date cosmetics, as well as unique cosmetics to DDs that would encourage players to do it more, the potsherds would serve an even bigger purpose and doing the more challenging content would reward more. Hell add in more mounts, titles, make use of our achievement system more. It can easily go a long way for both PoTD and HoH to have themed sets unique to their aesthetics. and it would be great for players lvling and players there for glam.
    I don't know what up-to-date cosmetics is supposed to mean. We get new content regularly and it comes with more cosmetic goods. None of that stuff is ever "outdated". Even the content stays fresh as new people keep coming through. You go to x place for the one set of glam and that's it. They added DD to the ShB relic, so that's about as much addition as they'll get.

    When you say themed aesthetics, my mind goes to the glowy weapons. Are we supposed to have hot flaming armor sets in orange and white?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I don't know what up-to-date cosmetics is supposed to mean. We get new content regularly and it comes with more cosmetic goods. None of that stuff is ever "outdated". Even the content stays fresh as new people keep coming through. You go to x place for the one set of glam and that's it. They added DD to the ShB relic, so that's about as much addition as they'll get.

    When you say themed aesthetics, my mind goes to the glowy weapons. Are we supposed to have hot flaming armor sets in orange and white?
    SO my idea is essentially taking the theme of PoTD into mind, Tactics Orge, they can make more sets based around that, other MMOs do it all the time, and it can go a long way. HoH is shinto themed(?) make gear mounts and titles based around that, update it with new designs every so often. adding non retention based reasons to do old content is a good thing imo. And this is a way to do it, and cater to something players like, glam.
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