Playing an expansion as current content has been a lacklustre MMO experience

[caffe_macchiato]

As for me, Black Friday happened. I bought 4 Assassin’s Creed games for like 30 bucks. I’ll log in about once a week to say hi and see what up…but I don’t really expect to be done with all 4 of these games til like…. Next summer.

That’s basically the best part of FFXIV, from what many in this thread have said. It lets you play other games. Because content comes out slowly, you don’t have to worry about falling behind because the whole game is frozen in time.

There’s just a level of misplaced expectations since people expect this game to provide lots of content each month like every other monthly subscription—WoW, Game Pass, Netflix, etc. We’re not like that, and many people love that about us. FFXIV is just like FFXIII and FFXV: you still need to pay monthly (via your electric bill), but once the game is over with, you put it down. And you use your monthly service to play other games, like using FFXIV to organize guilds for other games (which people do).

[Magikazam]

That’s basically the best part of FFXIV, from what many in this thread have said. It lets you play other games. Because content comes out slowly, you don’t have to worry about falling behind because the whole game is frozen in time.

There’s just a level of misplaced expectations since people expect this game to provide lots of content each month like every other monthly subscription—WoW, Game Pass, Netflix, etc. We’re not like that, and many people love that about us. FFXIV is just like FFXIII and FFXV: you still need to pay monthly (via your electric bill), but once the game is over with, you put it down. And you use your monthly service to play other games, like using FFXIV to organize guilds for other games (which people do).

And turn out some people don't like paying for a monthly sub for bare bone content. Hell, this game lack heave replayability or just, interesting side content. Cause yea there lots of stuff to do like the 700+ ish side quest that give sub-par xp and gil. But why would you do them?

[Deveryn]

And turn out some people don't like paying for a monthly sub for bare bone content. Hell, this game lack heave replayability or just, interesting side content. Cause yea there lots of stuff to do like the 700+ ish side quest that give sub-par xp and gil. But why would you do them?

That's just your opinion and clearly not the majority or we wouldn't have this forum to discuss it anymore.

[R041]

That’s basically the best part of FFXIV, from what many in this thread have said. It lets you play other games. Because content comes out slowly, you don’t have to worry about falling behind because the whole game is frozen in time.

How sad is it when we simp for not having content to do, and they still time lock progression systems, encouraging the sub to stay active. lol

That's just your opinion and clearly not the majority or we wouldn't have this forum to discuss it anymore.

Probably because most people that would disagree can't even talk on the forum unless they sub. Luckily for you there are a few masochists left.

[Raven2014]

Luckily for you there are a few masochists left.

"Few" ?

Dude looked at the forums, the naysaying post and naysayers outnumbers the positive by several factors.

[R041]

"Few" ?

Dude looked at the forums, the naysaying post and naysayers outnumbers the positive by several factors.

Well.. The bots still outweigh the masochists probably. So you got that I guess. Yay? lol

[Raven2014]

Well.. The bots still outweigh the masochists probably. So you got that I guess. Yay? lol

What did I get?

[Striker44]

And turn out some people don't like paying for a monthly sub for bare bone content. Hell, this game lack heave replayability or just, interesting side content. Cause yea there lots of stuff to do like the 700+ ish side quest that give sub-par xp and gil. But why would you do them?

I would love to know where this "bare bone content" is...I've been playing rather steadily for almost 2 years now, and I still have a ton of things on the horizon that I've barely scratched the surface on so far. Not to mention I haven't even touched things like IS yet (not because I don't want to - I've just been enjoying so many other things and haven't gotten around to it yet).

Probably because most people that would disagree can't even talk on the forum unless they sub. Luckily for you there are a few masochists left.

This response made no sense. The point was the continued health of the game (currently hundreds of thousands of active players even during late-patch lulls) shows there's a huge number of people finding a lot of engaging content. Not to mention the forums are fairly worthless as a representative of anything since most people who enjoy the game just play it and have probably never even looked at the forum, let alone post on it. I'd say the "masochists" here are the few that spend time talking about how much they enjoy the game in such a negative echo chamber.

Games like WoW or PSO2 have much higher innate replayability in their content because those games have more layers of complexity and offer content with shifting circumstances. In 14, you can press identical inputs every time in almost every single piece of content and get an identical result. Everything is completely scripted down the milisecond, including the way jobs play. All fights in the game devolve into the worlds slowest rhythm game after a few runs.

I can only really compare to WoW, but hard disagree. WoW fights are much more heavily scripted. FFXIV at least tends to feature bosses with an element of randomness in which abilities they choose to use. Here, if you press identical inputs, you'll likely end up tanking the floor rather quickly.

World of Warcraft, GW2, PSO2 all have content that is consistently more interesting to participate in repeatedly than FF14.

This is purely a personal opinion trying to masquerade as if it was a fact (it's not). My opinion? FFXIV leaves the rest in the dust for things I find interesting to participate in repeatedly. There's a reason FFXIV became my only MMO sub while WoW, GW2, and SWTOR all went by the wayside.

[LittleImp]

I can only really compare to WoW, but hard disagree. WoW fights are much more heavily scripted. FFXIV at least tends to feature bosses with an element of randomness in which abilities they choose to use. Here, if you press identical inputs, you'll likely end up tanking the floor rather quickly.

You are unironically just completely making things up.

This is such a nonsensical take that it makes me immediately doubt you have ever stepped foot in high-end raid in either of the games, and are just grasping at straws to white knight like usual.

This is purely a personal opinion trying to masquerade as if it was a fact (it's not). My opinion? FFXIV leaves the rest in the dust for things I find interesting to participate in repeatedly. There's a reason FFXIV became my only MMO sub while WoW, GW2, and SWTOR all went by the wayside.

It is objective fact that there are more permutations and randomization in all of those games, than there is in ANY content offered in FF14.

[Striker44]

You are unironically just completely making things up.

This is such a nonsensical take that it makes me immediately doubt you have ever stepped foot in high-end raid in either of the games, and are just grasping at straws to white knight like usual.

It is objective fact that there are more permutations and randomization in all of those games, than there is in ANY content offered in FF14.

You seem to have interesting definitions of "unironically", "making things up", "permutations" and "randomization" given that your use of all them is, as you so eloquently put it, objectively wrong. I also never mentioned "high-end raiding," though even there I would still be correct. The entire way DBM functions for WoW is inherent on scripts and specifically a lack of randomization.

Meanwhile, let's take a fight like Eden's Promise: Eternity. Each time you do it, the boss will select random (aka different) elements in different orders on each of its casts. Saying "I'll just stand close on the first cast, then go to the side on the second cast" will get you very dead, very quick, because there's a very low probability that specific movement will be the right one.

Umm, ya no buddy. Look at what I got here.

Umm, yeah buddy. Look at the descriptions of those abilities. While the name of the move occurs at a certain time, each time it's cast, it can be cast in a different way (such as the order and placement of the crystals for each use of Topaz Stones). Way to fail at proving someone wrong and end up actually proving them right