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  1. #111
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    I mean, end of the day it’s a game. If you feel you are getting your money’s worth when you log in, mission accomplished. Whatever that may mean to you is of course up to you. Some people need new content, some are happy socializing. If it feels like a chore/unfun there is nothing wrong with unsubbing for a bit- you can catch up easy if/when you come back. You do you.

    As for me, Black Friday happened. I bought 4 Assassin’s Creed games for like 30 bucks. I’ll log in about once a week to say hi and see what up…but I don’t really expect to be done with all 4 of these games til like…. Next summer.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    So I'm very confuse about "when people claim there are better games than FF14"
    I never made the claim that other games are better, please reread my post before getting weirdly belligerent and trying to duke it out with invisible strawmen.

    I said "Other MMOs offer content with better replayability"

    World of Warcraft, GW2, PSO2 all have content that is consistently more interesting to participate in repeatedly than FF14.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    For the record, I'm someone who:
    You will need to post logged evidence of any of this for it to be relevant. These types of claims are so commonplace among the 14 community that they have lost meaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    - People complain about story, but FF14 is the top, or near the top.
    I did not complain about the story in my post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    - People complain about gearing, FF14 have the most casual prep among them.
    I did not complain about gearing in my post, but it's a topic worth discussing elsewhere. Comparatively the gearing is very good in this game, but that doesn't mean it cannot be improved further.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    - People complain about reward and loot, FF14 have the most friendly loot system bar none.
    In regards to rewards, we are talking specifically about content like Criterion dungeon, where rewards are widely criticized for being worthless. A 'Friendly' loot system would entail putting catchup gear ala Bozja haste gear, or upgrade materials ala the 24 man into Criterion, offering players another way to catchup and increase their character power, without raising the overall cap on character power or even meeting it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    So ... what are these games that you claim even more generous than FF14. Because I would love to try it out.
    You are so weirdly heated that you didn't even read my post properly, despite it being composed of only three sentences. I never said the games were more generous, I never commented on their gearing systems, and I never said they were overall better than 14. There are certain things they do right that 14 could learn from to become an even better game.

    Games like WoW or PSO2 have much higher innate replayability in their content because those games have more layers of complexity and offer content with shifting circumstances. In 14, you can press identical inputs every time in almost every single piece of content and get an identical result. Everything is completely scripted down the milisecond, including the way jobs play. All fights in the game devolve into the worlds slowest rhythm game after a few runs.

    It's unfortunately much easier to ask SE to provide player satisfaction through more enticing rewards, rather than to ask them to fundamentally reconsider the way they develop encounters. (Though I would love to see them do that and add more chaos to experimental content like Criterion)
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    As for me, Black Friday happened. I bought 4 Assassin’s Creed games for like 30 bucks. I’ll log in about once a week to say hi and see what up…but I don’t really expect to be done with all 4 of these games til like…. Next summer.
    That’s basically the best part of FFXIV, from what many in this thread have said. It lets you play other games. Because content comes out slowly, you don’t have to worry about falling behind because the whole game is frozen in time.

    There’s just a level of misplaced expectations since people expect this game to provide lots of content each month like every other monthly subscription—WoW, Game Pass, Netflix, etc. We’re not like that, and many people love that about us. FFXIV is just like FFXIII and FFXV: you still need to pay monthly (via your electric bill), but once the game is over with, you put it down. And you use your monthly service to play other games, like using FFXIV to organize guilds for other games (which people do).
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    That’s basically the best part of FFXIV, from what many in this thread have said. It lets you play other games. Because content comes out slowly, you don’t have to worry about falling behind because the whole game is frozen in time.

    There’s just a level of misplaced expectations since people expect this game to provide lots of content each month like every other monthly subscription—WoW, Game Pass, Netflix, etc. We’re not like that, and many people love that about us. FFXIV is just like FFXIII and FFXV: you still need to pay monthly (via your electric bill), but once the game is over with, you put it down. And you use your monthly service to play other games, like using FFXIV to organize guilds for other games (which people do).
    And turn out some people don't like paying for a monthly sub for bare bone content. Hell, this game lack heave replayability or just, interesting side content. Cause yea there lots of stuff to do like the 700+ ish side quest that give sub-par xp and gil. But why would you do them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    And turn out some people don't like paying for a monthly sub for bare bone content. Hell, this game lack heave replayability or just, interesting side content. Cause yea there lots of stuff to do like the 700+ ish side quest that give sub-par xp and gil. But why would you do them?
    That's just your opinion and clearly not the majority or we wouldn't have this forum to discuss it anymore.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    That’s basically the best part of FFXIV, from what many in this thread have said. It lets you play other games. Because content comes out slowly, you don’t have to worry about falling behind because the whole game is frozen in time.
    How sad is it when we simp for not having content to do, and they still time lock progression systems, encouraging the sub to stay active. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    That's just your opinion and clearly not the majority or we wouldn't have this forum to discuss it anymore.
    Probably because most people that would disagree can't even talk on the forum unless they sub. Luckily for you there are a few masochists left.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Luckily for you there are a few masochists left.
    "Few" ?

    Dude looked at the forums, the naysaying post and naysayers outnumbers the positive by several factors.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    "Few" ?

    Dude looked at the forums, the naysaying post and naysayers outnumbers the positive by several factors.
    Well.. The bots still outweigh the masochists probably. So you got that I guess. Yay? lol
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Well.. The bots still outweigh the masochists probably. So you got that I guess. Yay? lol
    What did I get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
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