Playing an expansion as current content has been a lacklustre MMO experience

[caffe_macchiato]

What I really dislike though is the lack of a "midcore", the content between Normal and Savage in terms of raiding as an example.

Many people deeply cherish this aspect of FFXIV. “Midcore” content keeps people locked in to the game, like in WoW (our least favorite MMO). Normal mode is a snooze after the first week, and savage only requires an hour a week for reclears. There’s not much in-game to progress with…

And that’s a GOOD thing. It lets us play other games. We have a ton of games coming out this season, and the last thing we want to play is FFXIV. Let’s face it, this game is a bit like FFXIII. The story is good, boss battles and music are fancy, but once you’re done? You put it down. The ability to play other games is a major draw to FFXIV. We pay $13/month for the ability to play any other game that we want. WoW forces you to play. You pay $15/month to be taken away from your other games, from your friends on Discord, from everything else that you care about.

Yoshida is a family man and he understands the value of our time. With the “drought” (I call it a life-enhancement period), we can explore new hobbies, have time for the spouse and kids, and play other video games. If anything, I hope 6.3 gets pushed back so we have more time to do things that we actually enjoy.

What you're taking as an issue, to the developers it's an intended feature, and to other players it's actually a good thing. For example just in this year alone, I was able to finish Trail of Cold Steel 4, Tale of Arise, Xenoblade 3, Star Ocean Divine Force and a bunch of other game along side playing FF14.

Spot on! Without FFXIV, how will I ever have the time to play other games?

[Moebious]

As a midcore player too, I completely agree with the lack of said content, especially in this current Expansion.

You mentioned you had completed Eureka and gotten the fending gear, tried the zones with different dps jobs too? Some can be incredibly fun too, especially if you built them up to perform very well in there. since how the Bozja relics work with their bonus stats, you can get supercharged in pretty fun ways.

Maybe I didn't see you mention it in your first 2 posts but what about Deep Dungeon? Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High are what I defo would place great midcore content, especially both for duo and solo progression, along with hidden rewards once you complete them first time. And the journey to Necromancer is closer than ever before, I just got the title myself yesterday! So defo possible feat to aim fore, and its the sort of content I certainly wished the dev team made lots of more of, along with more Eureka like zones and content, with their special zone gear.

Should you consider diving into Deep Dungeons, defo get bozja weapon relic quests to the last 2 steps, so you can get plenty of the relic materials(Timeworn relics and Raw Intuition) as you progress through them as well, passive bonus rewards more or less.

Endwalker's content has been beyond underwhelming, with few exception of raids, extremes, and alliance raid. Game really does really need more ways for people to gear up freely as they please, without endless amounts of timegating, like weekly caps and limited chests.
Hopefully they'll reconsider the endgame gearing and such, after Sfia's pretty highly liked post, and it being translated too, we can hope.


Hope you join the Deep Dungeon journey though. o/

[VelKallor]

the mission table gave you access to Heroic and Mythic quality loot

I was there. No it didnt. Ever.

[LittleImp]

The ability to play other games is a major draw to FFXIV. We pay $13/month for the ability to play any other game that we want. WoW forces you to play. You pay $15/month to be taken away from your other games, from your friends on Discord, from everything else that you care about.

I honestly cannot tell if this is meant to be a joke or not, which really says a lot about this games community lol.

[Skivvy]

Yes, there is.

and here

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume they mean a glamour log/wardrobe like in WoW/GW2. Something that saves the skins of the pieces you collect so you don't have to actually keep the physical item.

[AnnRam]

Many people deeply cherish this aspect of FFXIV. “Midcore” content keeps people locked in to the game, like in WoW (our least favorite MMO). Normal mode is a snooze after the first week, and savage only requires an hour a week for reclears. There’s not much in-game to progress with…

And that’s a GOOD thing. It lets us play other games. We have a ton of games coming out this season, and the last thing we want to play is FFXIV. Let’s face it, this game is a bit like FFXIII. The story is good, boss battles and music are fancy, but once you’re done? You put it down. The ability to play other games is a major draw to FFXIV. We pay $13/month for the ability to play any other game that we want. WoW forces you to play. You pay $15/month to be taken away from your other games, from your friends on Discord, from everything else that you care about.

Yoshida is a family man and he understands the value of our time. With the “drought” (I call it a life-enhancement period), we can explore new hobbies, have time for the spouse and kids, and play other video games. If anything, I hope 6.3 gets pushed back so we have more time to do things that we actually enjoy.


Spot on! Without FFXIV, how will I ever have the time to play other games?

-Pay monthly 15 usd for access to play a single game (meanwhile gamepass for 1 dollar or 8 gives you more than 100 per month)
-Online store where an virtual outfit that doesn't match certain "new" races costs sometimes twice as an entry sub.
-Recycled evens since 2015.
-New content every 3-4 month
-Please give us less content so we can play other games
-Thanks devs

What kind of logic its that?.

[Johners]

I was there. No it didnt. Ever.

It did, it absolutely did. Once you had cleared enough bosses on a given difficulty, you then got a weekly mission table quest which rewarded a chest containing any item from that raid and difficulty loot table. They never removed this by the way, it still exists. I can log into WoW right now, go to my Garrison and send off the mission(s) (each raid had it's own one but for Hellfire Citadel, it was from the second shipyard mission table they added) to then receive these rewards tomorrow.

[LittleImp]

I was there. No it didnt. Ever.

[Deveryn]

-Pay monthly 15 usd for access to play a single game (meanwhile gamepass for 1 dollar or 8 gives you more than 100 per month)
-Online store where an virtual outfit that doesn't match certain "new" races costs sometimes twice as an entry sub.
-Recycled evens since 2015.
-New content every 3-4 month
-Please give us less content so we can play other games
-Thanks devs

What kind of logic its that?.

That's not what's being said. You're missing the point of how development works for an MMO. There is no possibility of a constant stream of content for the foreseeable future by any Dev team.

With XIV, you have more options for how often you want to check in, whether you play for a bit every time a major patch drops or every time an expansion drops.

No one has ever said "please give us less content". If anything, people have asked for things to be a little spread out so it's not everything all at once, hence the .x5 patches. Now we're starting to play around with the idea of delaying savage for a week so the hardcore raiders can enjoy the rest of what a patch has to offer and have some prep time before they dive in.

Service costs: They charge the same as competitors in and out of the genre. One can find more value in a month of an MMO than a month of netflix or hulu.

Online store with purely optional items: racial issues aside (which are being worked on), why are people still crying about this?

[Minarisweet]

Ive been saying for a while this game lacks midcore content especially in the newer expansions... Shb felt terrible until 5.55 which was when all of bozja was out and felt like a complete experience but before that bozja was short and lackluster... This expansion is going through the same route but with a bit more content after wait it seems.