Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
None of those things have particularly changed outside of simply relative healing requirements.

We did not manage aggro outside of very rarely holding Sacred Shroud for until after a Cure III.

That's not true. Unless you have tanks who willingly to keep the stance up all the times. Maybe I was unlucky but I did not see those tanks a lot back then, both PF and static.

Also, are we just gonna repeat the same argument circle we had a month ago? I'll just give you a short summary of what I said back then:

- Did I say the system in 2.0 - 3.0 was perfect? No.
- What I said was elements back then should be enhanced, refined, and expanse.

I don't know why people saying stuffs like "oh as long as your tank is good, your ninja know his thing, your BRD/MCH take care of MP .etc." then it's not difference for healer as if they're something taken for granted.

First: they're not taken for granted.
Second: even when you succeed in doing that, it still means there are layer of consideration and coordination to ensure a smooth run. Things that are now completely absent.

Like I said a month ago, if you keep stripping raw element away because "it's janky, not working too well" instead of refining and improving them than you eventually end up with a skeleton. Hence, I present you today's healer.


Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
Point still stands and is never addressed:

What are healers supposed to do when there's no healing required? Why is their downtime engagement not given the same weight as the other two roles?

Why you asking me to address that? Do I look like someone who worked for SE? I feel like this is something people try to argue with me always conveniently overlook: I never said the current healer is fine, but like ... you guys always seem to make out that what's I'm saying.

I never argue the point healer need more active engagement, the only thing I'm argue is "more DPS button" is not the solution to that, and I think that offend a lot of people. All I know is currently healers have a problem, but I'm not gonna try and pretend I know exactly what SE's vision/direction with the role.