Let's talk about Alliance roulette and ilvl cheese for a sec.

[Deveryn]

The ilv cheese is an exploit and needs to be done away with regardless of the situation with CT. How much this factors into throwing the majority of the playerbase into these raids time and time again when they use the roulette is purely anecdotal at this point, but we know it's a factor. The dev team is going to have to address this sooner or later as this is an actual problem. Reworking the raids or lowering the maximum ilv allowed so we have to deal with mechanics again are band-aid solutions that should be applied for the fun factor, not the ilv cheesing.

Curious. How many of you have actually got Aglaia when using the roulette? I've used alliance roulette at least 2-3 times per week since the raid was released into the roulette pool, and I haven't got it once.

It just makes no sense to queue roulette for Aglaia. If you really want to gamble, then be prepared to lose. The odds are so stacked against you. By the time it's added to roulette, things have started to die down and people are likely taking a break from it. I queue direct once a week and I sometimes let it slide. Maybe the bigger problem is people trying to roll the dice when they should queue direct.

[Atelier-Bagur]

The ilv cheese is an exploit and needs to be done away with regardless of the situation with CT. How much this factors into throwing the majority of the playerbase into these raids time and time again when they use the roulette is purely anecdotal at this point, but we know it's a factor. The dev team is going to have to address this sooner or later as this is an actual problem. Reworking the raids or lowering the maximum ilv allowed so we have to deal with mechanics again are band-aid solutions that should be applied for the fun factor, not the ilv cheesing.

Curious. How many of you have actually got Aglaia when using the roulette? I've used alliance roulette at least 2-3 times per week since the raid was released into the roulette pool, and I haven't got it once.

I dont do alliance roulettes daily, but Ive had it pop a few times just when I do them for casual tomestone farming. Its really all just your luck vs everyone elses luck. Theres no evil elf conspiring against you to have CT all the time.

Actually wait there is, its called RNG and I bet they set the odds to favor CT popping up more than the other sets but this is just also just my own baseless assumption.

[Gemina]

It just makes no sense to queue roulette for Aglaia. If you really want to gamble, then be prepared to lose. The odds are so stacked against you. By the time it's added to roulette, things have started to die down and people are likely taking a break from it. I queue direct once a week and I sometimes let it slide. Maybe the bigger problem is people trying to roll the dice when they should queue direct.

Who said anything about queuing specifically for Aglaia? I'm just asking if it has come up for anyone who does queue for alliance roulette at max level. Yes, there are going to be fewer people who qualify for the higher level raids, and it will come up less as a result of that. That's just common sense.

[Gemina]

I dont do alliance roulettes daily, but Ive had it pop a few times just when I do them for casual tomestone farming. Its really all just your luck vs everyone elses luck. Theres no evil elf conspiring against you to have CT all the time.

Actually wait there is, its called RNG and I bet they set the odds to favor CT popping up more than the other sets but this is just also just my own baseless assumption.

I don't believe in evil elves. Unless they come in the form of ilv cheesers. It should be quite clear that this is an exploit that can be used to force a CT raid. This needs to be eliminated regardless of the remaining likelihood of getting a CT raid in the roulette.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I don't believe in evil elves. Unless they come in the form of ilv cheesers. It should be quite clear that this is an exploit that can be used to force a CT raid. This needs to be eliminated regardless of the remaining likelihood of getting a CT raid in the roulette.

The only solution I can see for this is to have it wherr youre locked in with whatever gearset you had when you applied for the queue.

Even then I still say the ilv issue is not nearly as big as many people make it out to be because its not something you can easily prove thats what occurred.

[Deveryn]

I don't believe in evil elves. Unless they come in the form of ilv cheesers. It should be quite clear that this is an exploit that can be used to force a CT raid. This needs to be eliminated regardless of the remaining likelihood of getting a CT raid in the roulette.

It's abundantly clear that it's an exploit, but fixing it will change nothing.

[Saraide]

The ilv cheese is an exploit and needs to be done away with regardless of the situation with CT. How much this factors into throwing the majority of the playerbase into these raids time and time again when they use the roulette is purely anecdotal at this point, but we know it's a factor. The dev team is going to have to address this sooner or later as this is an actual problem. Reworking the raids or lowering the maximum ilv allowed so we have to deal with mechanics again are band-aid solutions that should be applied for the fun factor, not the ilv cheesing.

Curious. How many of you have actually got Aglaia when using the roulette? I've used alliance roulette at least 2-3 times per week since the raid was released into the roulette pool, and I haven't got it once.

Since aglaia entered the roulette i got it 2 or 3 times I think but I am a very infrequent rouletteer. Most of my roulette spins put me into nier raids.

[Toutatis]

If you look on player search or in your party, you can easily see who's below 60 or who hasnt opened dun scaith..

Level itself has little relevancy. The possibility to unlock optional ARs is also locked behind story progression independent of level. By the time I finished HW on a rather recent character, I was already level 74. It’s so easy to get XP now, especially with earrings and GC bonus plus a bit of pvp. And I never unlock Dun Scaith on my alts. I like the first two lvl 60 raids but not that one.

[RyuDragnier]

It's abundantly clear that it's an exploit, but fixing it will change nothing.

It will change a lot, actually. Assume 5 groups of 24 (who are level 80+) enter a roulette, and there are 5 ilvl cheesers. Multiple things can happen depending on RNG, anything from only 1 group of 24 getting all 5 of them forcing CT instead of the higher raids, to every one of the 5 groups getting one of them and being forced into CT. Now assume the cheese is taken care of. You have a true roulette. One of the groups may get CT, but otherwise there's a chance of Nier, Ivalice, or Void. So tell me, why are you people so against making it a true roulette instead of something you can game?

[Deveryn]

It will change a lot, actually. Assume 5 groups of 24 (who are level 80+) enter a roulette, and there are 5 ilvl cheesers. Multiple things can happen depending on RNG, anything from only 1 group of 24 getting all 5 of them forcing CT instead of the higher raids, to every one of the 5 groups getting one of them and being forced into CT. Now assume the cheese is taken care of. You have a true roulette. One of the groups may get CT, but otherwise there's a chance of Nier, Ivalice, or Void. So tell me, why are you people so against making it a true roulette instead of something you can game?

No one is against making it a true roulette, you all are just so narrow-minded as to think cheese is the one and only thing throwing it off.