When do you think they'll add cross-region data center travel? OCE is screwed!

[LianaThorne]

Because it doesn't benefit them to wait an hour for it. It takes time for the overall population to grow as sprouts make new characters and become veterans themselves who might queue for pvp and while that happens they can visit another DC instead of completely transferring away from Dynamis permanently. One way or another, I've seen people from Dynamis in pvp matches.

It does help because it means there are more people to kill them faster, which when I went there, it looked like this was helping because they were taking a lot longer to die than on other data centers. This is one of the things that helps prevent it from feeling dead and preventing Materia from feeling dead seems like it would be desirable.

-It doesn't benefit anyone to wait in a line for an hour but the point is to help foster growth on the new DC. Going to another one for convenience still leaves the original DC with the long wait times. You're also putting a lot of assumptions that new players are going to flock to Dynamis when the vast vast majority of sprouts are alts by other players. I actually remember a comment in NN a few nights ago by someone "Has anyone seen an ACTUAL sprout yet?"

New players are going to go where their friends are which (unless their friend is a vet who moved their main over) is most likely not Dynamis. It's safe to say that most made alts for housing because of how braindead it is to get one on Dynamis on top of not needing to actually take care of it because demo is still turned off. So, why would they need to actually play on the DC when they can just go back to their old one and worry about timers whenever demo comes back? Even so, there are still thousands of houses sitting with 0 bids.

Dynamis pop is on par with Materia, even with DC travel. It's insane how empty Limsa is on all servers but Seraph, especially in the mornings when servers like Adamantoise on Aether are constantly alive no matter what time it is.

My point basically is: If more people put in the effort to stick out times and take lead in the community to get things like frontline moving on a daily basis, queues would start moving quicker. The game also needs a burst of new players which isn't going to happen right now in a dead period between patches. Hell, might not even see it till 7.0

[Jeeqbit]

You're also putting a lot of assumptions that new players are going to flock to Dynamis when the vast vast majority of sprouts are alts by other players.

They are currently, but let me put it this way. Why would anyone make a character on Crystal after the DC split where everyone flocked to Aether?

Well people did make characters on Crystal - particularly a lot of WoW refugees did, because I met them constantly there. They just pick a data center at random and whichever world makes sense to them, unless they have a friend telling them which one to pick.

The Aether population was greater and it was obvious a lot of people had friends telling them to pick Aether, but there were those who picked Crystal and it has grown well over time.

I actually remember a comment in NN a few nights ago by someone "Has anyone seen an ACTUAL sprout yet?"

I tried inviting a lot of them without an FC to the Novice Network. A lot of them declined, but some of them didn't. I observe the same behaviour on other data centers, so it's hard to say, but I assumed if they were any higher than 50 they were probably people that transferred.

[DeNada]

They are currently, but let me put it this way. Why would anyone make a character on Crystal after the DC split where everyone flocked to Aether?

Well people did make characters on Crystal - particularly a lot of WoW refugees did, because I met them constantly there. They just pick a data center at random and whichever world makes sense to them, unless they have a friend telling them which one to pick.

The Aether population was greater and it was obvious a lot of people had friends telling them to pick Aether, but there were those who picked Crystal and it has grown well over time.

I tried inviting a lot of them without an FC to the Novice Network. A lot of them declined, but some of them didn't. I observe the same behaviour on other data centers, so it's hard to say, but I assumed if they were any higher than 50 they were probably people that transferred.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Crystal made up of existing worlds when the reshuffle happened?

If so, that's an apples to oranges comparison and should not be used as a reference to predict how Dynamis might turn out.

Instead, a more apt comparison would be to compare to Materia which is a data center comprised of completely new worlds and we all know how that turned out...

[Jeeqbit]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Crystal made up of existing worlds when the reshuffle happened?

Yes, but those worlds were mostly regarded as "dead" by people. The most populated was Balmung. There was also Mateus that was sort of an overflow from Balmung. When I last checked a year ago, Crystal was significantly less populated than Aether and Primal, so Aether got locked forcing people to start on Crystal.

Instead, a more apt comparison would be to compare to Materia which is a data center comprised of completely new worlds and we all know how that turned out...

There is a big difference on Materia which is that it is for OCE and I suspect the amount of people playing from that region is smaller than NA, otherwise they would need 4 Data Centers like NA has.