When do you think they'll add cross-region data center travel? OCE is screwed!

[MsMisato]

As new player on DYnamis. It blows having to wait forever for a queue to pop.its like active for a like a couple of hours in the evening but then it feels like the people there are from other DC make of the majority of pop. I think Seraph is the only server that is full. The 3 are pretty empty. The MB sucks. It shouldn't be like that, I shouldn't have to travel to another DC, wait for the travel time, log in, do my roulettes, and leave because I can't access my retainer. its stupid.

[Jeeqbit]

Above post, essentially. The ability to leave the data center temporarily allows you to return to it some of the time. The inability to leave the data center temporarily can mean you need to leave it forever.

So you can do things on the other data centers such as statics or what the data center doesn't have the activity for yet.

There are those who will always queue on the data center itself such as newer players and slowly build up the activity so that people stop traveling off-world to get duty pops.

[LaylaTsarra]

Above post, essentially. The ability to leave the data center temporarily allows you to return to it some of the time. The inability to leave the data center temporarily can mean you need to leave it forever.

That is so on the money. People don't want to leave they are going to be forced to leave. And why is it that OCE is the only Data Center that can't DC travel. It's unfair, it's crippling right now, it's not giving those there much of an option to either suffer or leave letting the DC bleed further.

[Imora]

It's really going to make me sound like a douche, but I always thought OCE servers were a terrible idea, if only because of the low population to fill them, much less the even fewer that would move.

I got a friend on Balmung who's in NZ. She refuses to move to Materia. Friends and such. On top of the relatively low overall population, the number that will actually move is even smaller.

It's unfortunate, but I saw this coming when they announced it. They would never inconvenience the JP community by moving a JP server to the Aussie datacenter.

[Imora]

There are almost fully populated English speaking servers in Japan that could have been moved. Tonberry is one of them. Backlash oh lets not offend anyone but lets let the people who decided to come here sit and pray for some divine intervention.

They aren't going to inconvenience the Japanese that play there.

[Imora]

The traffic will go both ways.



Temporary vs permanent with a 90 day CD.

connected to a dozenh or so establisher servers vs

OCE

vs

Bismarck 43,741
Ravana 56,978
Sephirot 60,500
Sophia 68,671
Zurvan 37,448

..connected to no one.

Im curious...why are you as an NA player opposed to this? For that matter why was NA opposed to OCE servers in the first place?

Why are you arguing against something that can HELP OCE server traffic? Why are you arguing against an option that will boost server traffic in both directions?.

Seems to me you'd want the OCE cluster to succeed..wouldnt you?

DC travel to/from Materia has the downside of huge latency jumps and I don't imagine people would want that. If they wanted NA latency, they would have played NA.

[VelKallor]

DC travel to/from Materia has the downside of huge latency jumps and I don't imagine people would want that. If they wanted NA latency, they would have played NA

Yet NA players are on JP servers with latency as well as EU servers........odd, innit?

They would never inconvenience the JP community by moving a JP server to the Aussie datacenter.

No one ever suggested it, asked for it, nor was it ever considered, so this is and was a non issue.

DC travel to/from Materia has the downside of huge latency jumps and I don't imagine people would want that.

This thread is about helping the OCE datacentre so OCE players have better latency...we deserve the best quality gameplay as much as you do, wouldnt you say?

If a way was found to combine the SEA and OCE populations on one DC it might well be viable.

An additional server in SEA would solve that Myrany, so yes, agreed.

[CallistemonYamadori]

The thing that confuses me, is why SE is "protecting" their JP community from players from Materia visiting Elemental, when more than half of us came from that DC in the first place. Most OCE players prefer JP strats, and a lot of us have friends from SEA that we'd love to party up with again sometime.

If the JP players are so scared of having "Gaikokkujin" players in their parties, just implement an option in the duty menu to exclude players from other DCs. I guarantee the snooty players who don't like playing with non-Japanese, will figure out how to turn it on pretty quickly.

Alternatively, giving a carrot rather than a stick, how about we incentivise travelling players by offering bonus exp/gil/poetics/seals to players who DC visit low-pop servers to queue for roulettes? Data centre travel outbound from Materia won't help new players, but having players from other DC's visiting Materia to queue for roulettes, absolutely will.


Please, sqeenix, help us, the queues for everything outside of 6pm-7pm, are absolutely woeful (as in, one hour alliance raid queue as a tank or healer under "adventurer in need"). Nobody is queing for roulettes more than once a day anymore, and it's easier to get 50 players to rock up to a spawned S rank hunt boss fight, than it is to find another player in Eureka outside of premade fate-spawning groups from discord, or get ANY PvP going outside of peak hour.

[Imora]

Vel, I'm pretty sure I explained myself just fine.

You wanted better latency. You got it. Adding datacenter travel will not fix it, because people will not go there that play in other regions.... Because of latency.

Latency to OCE from my country is easily 300ms on a good day. Ain't no way in Hate I would ever go from Light to Materia to solve your queue times.

The only thing that DC transfer will help in terms of queues, is get people off Materia to queue in a different datacenter.

People traveling to Materia, even if they're in OCE, still have to connect to their home datacenter first and then the data is forwarded. This is how it works in every game with cross region travel or instancing(see: wow Aussie in group with NA group leader... You're in an instance but still paying NA latency tax). It's not going to magically get an Aussie on a JP server better latency.

Some of you have absolutely no idea how this kind of thing works.

On top of it, the datacenter travel works in EU and NA because all servers are in the same farm. You would have to rewrite the code to send the traffic to a completely different server location first, and it's probably not set up for that.

Plus, they don't want the JP servers tarnished. They already don't seem to like OCE on their servers.

Your solution isn't DC travel, because no one will use it to go TO Materia. Only leave it.

[Myrany]

Vel, I'm pretty sure I explained myself just fine.

You wanted better latency. You got it. Adding datacenter travel will not fix it, because people will not go there that play in other regions.... Because of latency.

Latency to OCE from my country is easily 300ms on a good day. Ain't no way in Hate I would ever go from Light to Materia to solve your queue times.

The only thing that DC transfer will help in terms of queues, is get people off Materia to queue in a different datacenter.

People traveling to Materia, even if they're in OCE, still have to connect to their home datacenter first and then the data is forwarded. This is how it works in every game with cross region travel or instancing(see: wow Aussie in group with NA group leader... You're in an instance but still paying NA latency tax). It's not going to magically get an Aussie on a JP server better latency.

Some of you have absolutely no idea how this kind of thing works.

On top of it, the datacenter travel works in EU and NA because all servers are in the same farm. You would have to rewrite the code to send the traffic to a completely different server location first, and it's probably not set up for that.

Plus, they don't want the JP servers tarnished. They already don't seem to like OCE on their servers.

Your solution isn't DC travel, because no one will use it to go TO Materia. Only leave it.

Here is the thing if OCE people use DC travel to actually get things done on another DC at least they can get things done. That would at least stop the bleed of them moving back to other DCs and allow the servers the time they need to slowly build up to a self sufficient population.

I agree it is unlikely anyone would DC travel to Materia to get things done although big enough incentives to do so might help. I myself as a NA player moved my 2 characters to the new NA servers as I just couldn't cope the with over 400 ping I had to Materia. I tried to stay but I couldn't do it. There are people who are better at coping with it and for a decent incentive might be willing to do it.