19 jobs on one character

[Tigore]

If you look at the competitor WoW, you may be able to see why changing jobs / classes mid dungeon is restricted. Some of the players over there queue as a healer or tank merely to skip the queue time. They then switch to DPS and refuse to do the role they sign up for. It is a rare occurrence, but still something to note since a bad experience like this really sticks. In order for it to be a thing in dungeons, they may have to add a role check feature that only comes up when someone within a role has to be dismissed. Something like reassign roles after the kick, then search for the last spot. If the UI can get a store of what gear you use with all of your classes or jobs, it may work.

For the reworks, it's hard to say which ones are needed or not. After playing an expansion for 2 - 3 years, players are likely to want something new to do. In the case for healers, the 90 kit additions may feel superficial for normal content and only see real use in Savage or Ultimate. The other classes are usually getting additions to their rotations rather than changes if you compare to their last iteration. There are more major cases of actual change like MNK getting the Blitz system and SMN losing their DoTs in favor of a more button changing experience with the summons. DRK also used to be quite different in Heavensward and was modified to a version that resembles a WAR with more oGCDs.

As for Remolia, congratulations on making it to 80 as only Conjurer? In truth, you are still making it ultimately harder on yourself. White Mage has the lvl 35 quests to get Regen for starters. When used on the tanks, this spell is so handy to free you up for even higher healing with Cure 2 or helping with damage. Divine Benison shields at lvl 66 for White Mage makes it even better. There are other cooldowns of course, but these are some main spells that make general healing much more efficient. Cure 2 and Medica can be replaced by Afflatus Solace (lvl 52) and Afflatus Rapture (lvl 76) in most situations since they heal for the same amount and cost zero mana. Additionally, they also charge the blood lily to unlock Afflatus Misery for a massive AoE damage burst on enemies. All in all, you are really missing out by nixing the White Mage stone.

The Conjurer class does still get used, but for a completely different reason. Macros that copy ability bars to another blank bar. How this works is more applicable to PC from what others tell me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe-Gz_4fZcI

[Atelier-Bagur]

If you look at the competitor WoW, you may be able to see why changing jobs / classes mid dungeon is restricted. Some of the players over there queue as a healer or tank merely to skip the queue time. They then switch to DPS and refuse to do the role they sign up for. It is a rare occurrence, but still something to note since a bad experience like this really sticks. In order for it to be a thing in dungeons, they may have to add a role check feature that only comes up when someone within a role has to be dismissed. Something like reassign roles after the kick, then search for the last spot. If the UI can get a store of what gear you use with all of your classes or jobs, it may work.

For the reworks, it's hard to say which ones are needed or not. After playing an expansion for 2 - 3 years, players are likely to want something new to do. In the case for healers, the 90 kit additions may feel superficial for normal content and only see real use in Savage or Ultimate. The other classes are usually getting additions to their rotations rather than changes if you compare to their last iteration. There are more major cases of actual change like MNK getting the Blitz system and SMN losing their DoTs in favor of a more button changing experience with the summons. DRK also used to be quite different in Heavensward and was modified to a version that resembles a WAR with more oGCDs.

As for Remolia, congratulations on making it to 80 as only Conjurer? In truth, you are still making it ultimately harder on yourself. White Mage has the lvl 35 quests to get Regen for starters. When used on the tanks, this spell is so handy to free you up for even higher healing with Cure 2 or helping with damage. Divine Benison shields at lvl 66 for White Mage makes it even better. There are other cooldowns of course, but these are some main spells that make general healing much more efficient. Cure 2 and Medica can be replaced by Afflatus Solace (lvl 52) and Afflatus Rapture (lvl 76) in most situations since they heal for the same amount and cost zero mana. Additionally, they also charge the blood lily to unlock Afflatus Misery for a massive AoE damage burst on enemies. All in all, you are really missing out by nixing the White Mage stone.

The Conjurer class does still get used, but for a completely different reason. Macros that copy ability bars to another blank bar. How this works is more applicable to PC from what others tell me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe-Gz_4fZcI

ngl, you made a better point that I did with that crappy post I made about the subject, now that I read it back lol.

But yeah basically while the novelty does sound nice on paper, I rather have it be done in an environment where it works in its favor, such as exploratory zones and what not. Otherwise in standard group content, it would just cause a whole mess of problems.

[Remolia]

As for Remolia, congratulations on making it to 80 as only Conjurer? In truth, you are still making it ultimately harder on yourself. White Mage has the lvl 35 quests to get Regen for starters. When used on the tanks, this spell is so handy to free you up for even higher healing with Cure 2 or helping with damage. Divine Benison shields at lvl 66 for White Mage makes it even better. There are other cooldowns of course, but these are some main spells that make general healing much more efficient. Cure 2 and Medica can be replaced by Afflatus Solace (lvl 52) and Afflatus Rapture (lvl 76) in most situations since they heal for the same amount and cost zero mana. Additionally, they also charge the blood lily to unlock Afflatus Misery for a massive AoE damage burst on enemies. All in all, you are really missing out by nixing the White Mage stone.

The Conjurer class does still get used, but for a completely different reason. Macros that copy ability bars to another blank bar. How this works is more applicable to PC from what others tell me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe-Gz_4fZcI

For new players maybe, for me, WHM game play in normal duties puts me asleep.
But if not joking.
Using melds (adjust piety for mana), food buff, potions (we have 18% mana potion), and MO (mouseover) macros (I am a PC player) u can build a kinda fun game play around conjurer in normal duties, where u actually have to watch raid HP, use rescue, and actually focusing more on healing, instead of 11111111 glare spam.

[Tigore]

Admittedly, my first go to recently on a 90 roulette was Regen on tank -> Divine Benison on tank -> DoT the first pull pack with Dia spam -> refresh Regen on second pack -> Assize -> spam the hell out of Holy. An Asylum with another Regen refresh gets dropped down eventually when the Holy spam can no longer stun with long living enemies.

I do know some other healers are asking they consolidate the absurd amount healing spells together so there is more room for DPS buttons on them. WHM usually says they want Aero 3 back for starters. SCH wants Shadow Flare, Miasma and Bane or so for DoT spreading. AST players tend to want the old cards and Royal Road system back. SGE does have more damage buttons, but it still goes back to Dosis spam a bit.

It's also hard to say how we approach these requests for the healers. Being able to deal damage while healing has become so ingrain into the rotations that oGCDs were created in droves to provide steady healing while doing it. We do have some interesting cooldowns like SGE Haima that have proven to be quite successful, so maybe some traits to make it better or have a slightly lower cooldown as an idea to ruminate over?

[Heroman3003]

For new players maybe, for me, WHM game play in normal duties puts me asleep.
But if not joking.
Using melds (adjust piety for mana), food buff, potions (we have 18% mana potion), and MO (mouseover) macros (I am a PC player) u can build a kinda fun game play around conjurer in normal duties, where u actually have to watch raid HP, use rescue, and actually focusing more on healing, instead of 11111111 glare spam.

By handicapping yourself and those around you, you can turn simple gameplay into complex drag. Congrats.

[Midareyukki]

By handicapping yourself and those around you, you can turn simple gameplay into complex drag. Congrats.

I mean, when the simple gameplay is also a drag, doesn't it kind of reveal an underlying problem? '-'

[Remolia]

By handicapping yourself and those around you, you can turn simple gameplay into complex drag. Congrats.

you underestimate my power

[Mikey_R]

For new players maybe, for me, WHM game play in normal duties puts me asleep.
But if not joking.
Using melds (adjust piety for mana), food buff, potions (we have 18% mana potion), and MO (mouseover) macros (I am a PC player) u can build a kinda fun game play around conjurer in normal duties, where u actually have to watch raid HP, use rescue, and actually focusing more on healing, instead of 11111111 glare spam.

Now, imagine doing that whilst being a WHM. More healing power, more damage, access to mitigation and other useful healing options.

Limiting yourself to Conjurer is not making your gameplay more exciting, swapping the occasional damage spell for a heal instead is not what I would call riveting. However, planning your oGCD usage around fight mechanics, using the tools given to you, is much more engaging. Granted, this is coming from someone who has healing as their least preferred role, however, I fail to see how limiting yourself is making you more engaged.

I would also question why you mentioned any other healer. Throwing around cards efficiently on AST, or having a different healing style in SCH/SGE is going to be a different experience. However, I suspect this is more to do with not being a team player is a team game than actually not finding a healer that you enjoy.

[Remolia]

Now, imagine doing that whilst being a WHM. More healing power, more damage, access to mitigation and other useful healing options.

Limiting yourself to Conjurer is not making your gameplay more exciting, swapping the occasional damage spell for a heal instead is not what I would call riveting. However, planning your oGCD usage around fight mechanics, using the tools given to you, is much more engaging. Granted, this is coming from someone who has healing as their least preferred role, however, I fail to see how limiting yourself is making you more engaged.

I would also question why you mentioned any other healer. Throwing around cards efficiently on AST, or having a different healing style in SCH/SGE is going to be a different experience. However, I suspect this is more to do with not being a team player is a team game than actually not finding a healer that you enjoy.

I already told, each player has own expectations from the healer role. Watching closely other players, use mana as resource, and be more alert on raid list, coz u are more limited, is more fun for me. As SCH I just wakeup from Ruin spam slumber, press few "useful healing options" and go back to "ruin slumber". Yes, there are some 81+ level duties, where using full jobs is fun, coz you really sitting under pressure there. But healing 1-80 duties with full job? Noway, only if half naked maybe.

Anyway, we went a little off topic here.

[Zebraoracle]

Oh lord you're one of those. I very much hope you don't grief people in dungeons/trials and just do stuff with trusts...

EDIT: Reading your posts, you very much are... Gross.