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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
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    Isn't that the more reason to support a leader who's going to change garlemald for the better?

    If the eorzean City states are afforded second chance after their crimes, why can't garlemald as well?

    "The issue with suggesting that some of the provinces are better off under Garlean rule is that not even the Garleans are better off under Garlean rule. Even with Bozja's capital melted and Rabanastre bombed to rubble, the Garleans have probably ended up being the most badly affected by the Garlean Empire and now exist as refugees in their own homeland."

    But as you said before, it's because an ascian created their empire. Said ascian are now gone. So now it's the time for garlean to decide their own future. The game already did give us that, but again, it's too little.


    It's going to be hard to rewrite and include all of these in canon EW considering the game has to crammed so many things. But in a hypothetical garlean expansion, or in the next expansions, I think this scenario would fit well enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    Isn't that the more reason to support a leader who's going to change garlemald for the better?

    If the eorzean City states are afforded second chance after their crimes, why can't garlemald as well?
    You have been following the stories in the game regarding Maximus quo Priscus, aka Maximus Noeterric, right? A former member of the Populares (who were betrayed to Zenos through the traitor Asahi sas Brutus), Maximus's storyline has been ongoing since.

    Maximus has remained in Garlemald since the Eorzean Nations' relief effort and is well positioned to be such a leader.

    The other thing of note to remember is that the "Garlean Empire" is only about 60 years old. There were not any provinces under Garlean Rule until Nhalmasque was conquered in 1517. (Take that information from Encyclopedia Eorzea II, as it is briefly mentioned in the first volume that the territory was Dalmasca).

    The only 'nobility' the Garleans have had have been solely related to Emet-Selch in his role as Solus zos Galvus. As far as we can tell, it was a true Republic up until that time.

    Garlemald was built up in those 60 years on the backs of what one assumes (given context from our Yanxia questing) forced labor. The only one of the conquered territories where revolution was fomenting before the Garleans appeared was Ala Mhigo. It is incorrect to assume that every conquered territory was in need of the Empire to lay down it "oh-so-gentle" iron fist to put down the local government.

    It would be correct to assume that now that the fist has been removed, the people in the conquered territories are going to have to decide for themselves how to proceed. I dismiss the thought that those territories might welcome the rule of an iron fist if it was enclosed in a velvet glove as fantasy, even for this game.

    The conquered territories are no longer the problem of the Garleans themselves. The problem that remains is how to move forward. Empire isn't going to work for them. "Making nice" with the recently freed territories is going to be of primary importance in the survival of what, I assume, will become a form of the Republic that once was. One without titles.

    The goal of the Populares was admirable. There is a leader available to pursue such thoughts of peace for everyone (not just the Legions).

    Time will tell. And, like Ala Mhigo, most of that will be done off-screen. For it is no longer part of the story of the Warrior of Light.
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