A game for 4 year olds

[CheshCa7]

Let's not "both sides" this. Aveyond went personal in an ugly way. He said that people are either lieing or they did not grief like normal humans because they did not meet his very narrow and, might I say, pretty niche, definition of a grieving human being. That is way worse than anything that people told him till that point. And that is if we put aside the baseless arrogance, the dismissal of others arguments ("I did not read you essay") and his usual behaviour that shows a profound lack of respect for others and really reminds of a petulant child.


And the fact that some of you defended him in this speaks volumes. So next time you try to play the card of "woe is me, such a victim I am, people are mean because I hated EW" remember that you defended much worse behaviour. So yeah, that victim spiel won't work.

[Carin-Eri]

Let's not "both sides" this. Aveyond went personal in an ugly way. He said that people are either lieing or they did not grief like normal humans because they did not meet his very narrow and, might I say, pretty niche, definition of a grieving human being. That is way worse than anything that people told him till that point. And that is if we put aside the baseless arrogance, the dismissal of others arguments ("I did not read you essay") and his usual behaviour that shows a profound lack of respect for others and really reminds of a petulant child.


And the fact that some of you defended him in this speak volumes. So next time you try to play the card of "woe is me, such a victim I am, people are mean because I hated EW" remember that you defended much worse behaviour. So yeah, that victim spiel won't work.

To be clear, I'm not defending him as such. If anything, I think he crossed a line a in a big way with his attitude toward anyone who doesn't agree with his mindset, and I think he's made things worse by trying to pull the 'I'm the victim in this' card too.

I do still maintain that this discussion is, ultimately, pointless though - the thread was clearly created to discuss the story around the Omicron quest chain and managed to derail into yet another discussion about Endwalker as a whole. There are already numerous threads (one with a post count in the 700+ range) to discuss that and, personally, I'm tired of how consistently threads created to discuss X end up as Endwalker/Hydaelyn genocide/how much the writing sucks soapboxes lately.

[CheshCa7]

To be clear, I'm not defending him as such. If anything, I think he crossed a line a in a big way with his attitude toward anyone who doesn't agree with his mindset, and I think he's made things worse by trying to pull the 'I'm the victim in this' card too.

I do still maintain that this discussion is, ultimately, pointless though - the thread was clearly created to discuss the story that the Omicron quest chain and managed to derail into yet another discussion about Endwalker as a whole. There are already numerous threads (one with a post count in the 700+ range) to discuss that and, personally, I'm tired of how consistently threads created to discuss X end up as Endwalker/Hydaelyn genocide/how much the writing sucks soapboxes lately.

Oh, my message was not towards you. And I completely agree that every thread being derailed towards the same complaints is tiring (and I read most if not all posts from that gigantic thread. Gigantic but more than half the pages there are the same old posters with the same old opinion, but I digress). Unfortunately this topic was doomed to go that way I mean, if you look at who the OP is and how inflamatory the first post and even title was formulated, this thread was not going to be a civilised discussion about the Omicron quests. If you go back to the first page you see the usual suspects with the usual complaints ("story is for children", 'Yoshi P is ruining FFXIV', 'who is this story for???!!!11'). So what happened next was only natural.