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    The original intent of the hunt was never supposed to be via hunt trains, but rather to be a group of friends finding one and taking it down.

    The devs don’t seem to want to encourage hunt trains, but regardless this is the reality. Hunts need a rework to a) make S class not really a thing for trains (aka let them despawn/teleport/only give loot to the alliance that tags them) and b) make a new SS class mob that can really only be taken by multiple alliances. Ridiculous stuff from FF11, or world bosses from Guildwars 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    The original intent of the hunt was never supposed to be via hunt trains, but rather to be a group of friends finding one and taking it down.

    The devs don’t seem to want to encourage hunt trains, but regardless this is the reality. Hunts need a rework to a) make S class not really a thing for trains (aka let them despawn/teleport/only give loot to the alliance that tags them) and b) make a new SS class mob that can really only be taken by multiple alliances. Ridiculous stuff from FF11, or world bosses from Guildwars 2.
    Or just make it so you're only rewarded if you're on your own server to stop people feeling they have to wait for others to travel from other worlds or data centers.

    I hate what hunting has become. These are supposed to be powerful world bosses yet they die within seconds. Mods have made things even worse. I managed to spawn an S-rank in Northern Thanalan and its location was announced in shout chat and hunting linkshells the second it appeared. I looked around and I was the only person standing next to this thing as it happened to spawn right in front of me after killing enough Earth Sprites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    Or just make it so you're only rewarded if you're on your own server to stop people feeling they have to wait for others to travel from other worlds or data centers.

    I hate what hunting has become. These are supposed to be powerful world bosses yet they die within seconds. Mods have made things even worse. I managed to spawn an S-rank in Northern Thanalan and its location was announced in shout chat and hunting linkshells the second it appeared. I looked around and I was the only person standing next to this thing as it happened to spawn right in front of me after killing enough Earth Sprites.
    That’s an option too. Eliminating cross world hunting is not a bad call.

    I think there is the problem with the hunt: you killed a few earth sprites, it popped, then a deluge of players came almost immediately.

    Rather, it should be like a GW2 boss- multiple fate like things happening across the zone that, if all successful, lead to another thing which THEN spawns the big boss. It’s not unlike the world bosses we have except that they happen according to determined time/much more reliably.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 11-04-2022 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    I managed to spawn an S-rank in Northern Thanalan and its location was announced in shout chat and hunting linkshells the second it appeared. I looked around and I was the only person standing next to this thing as it happened to spawn right in front of me after killing enough Earth Sprites.
    The moment an S rank spawns. Everyone in that zone gets the notification, not just you. So obviously this will grab attention quickly.

    And as these mob spawn positions are static as well, and globaly rendered (meaning someone that is flying high on the other side of the map can give a quite accurate position). Its very easy for dedicated hunters to spread out the location fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    The moment an S rank spawns. Everyone in that zone gets the notification, not just you. So obviously this will grab attention quickly.

    And as these mob spawn positions are static as well, and globaly rendered (meaning someone that is flying high on the other side of the map can give a quite accurate position). Its very easy for dedicated hunters to spread out the location fast.
    I know there's a notification when an S-Rank is up. The point is, it was immediately announced the second it spawned with the exact coordinates in shout chat and the hunt linkshell I'm in. I didn't even get a chance type and say it spawned and after flying into the air, I saw no one around for at least 30 seconds when finally the person that shouted showed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    The original intent of the hunt was never supposed to be via hunt trains, but rather to be a group of friends finding one and taking it down.

    The devs don’t seem to want to encourage hunt trains, but regardless this is the reality. Hunts need a rework to a) make S class not really a thing for trains (aka let them despawn/teleport/only give loot to the alliance that tags them) and b) make a new SS class mob that can really only be taken by multiple alliances. Ridiculous stuff from FF11, or world bosses from Guildwars 2.
    Really? I thought S ranks were meant to be done by lots of people working together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Really? I thought S ranks were meant to be done by lots of people working together.
    Even an alliance of people is not the same as a full on hunt train. S rank mob mechanics are at hardest on par with like an alliance raid boss. It’s not that they are mechanically hard, just a bunch of hit points and can be punishing for mistakes.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 11-04-2022 at 07:59 PM.

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