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  1. #71
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    gifting still should of been in. Stupid to get rid of because of RMT. If someone wanted to pay for something then that is there prerogative. RMT for a mount isn't breaking the game. Now if it was to cheat the system its a different story
    This obviously will 100% fix RMT right ? Right ?

    Oh wait it wont, it's absolutely useless, and once again only punishes legit players. But hey, some people will keep defending the game and the dev's decisions at all cost, as per usual

    (just to clarify, i agree with you, just making fun of the people thinking this is going to do anything to fight RMT)
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 10-30-2022 at 05:03 AM.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    This obviously will 100% fix RMT right ? Right ?

    Oh wait it wont, it's absolutely useless, and once again only punishes legit players. But hey, some people will keep defending the game and the dev's decisions at all cost, as per usual

    (just to clarify, i agree with you, just making fun of the people thinking this is going to do anything to fight RMT)
    This is not meant to fix RMT. They're doing this to keep track of suspicous ongoing RMT activities.
    Also the RMT is not limited to resale, as suggested by the person you responded to, but the exploits of stolen credit card information.

    These are all mentioned in official announcement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    the shop is smooth and not as archaic as FFXIV's, and also it's in the game as well
    Though I personally don't want cash shop to be in the game, I do agree with the bad design on mogstation. Moreover, I think the design of every official webiste under Square Enix is kinda terrible. Not to mention the notorious sign-up process.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Not supposed to be, is. So many people on here not understanding what actually happened and why this had to be done, tsk tsk
    And you work for SE, so you have inside information about going on. No? Just acting pompous for the sake of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    And you work for SE, so you have inside information about going on. No? Just acting pompous for the sake of it.
    So you have to work at SE to use basic logic. Gotcha!

    It's not that hard to understand that a company would never prohibit any monetization options they definitely profit from for no reason. But people act here like SE did it just out of spite for players and gave no reason at all. While uh...they did actually talk about it which people completely ignore here. It's ofc not the best fix for the problem but it is a fairly decent one for the time being before it caused even much greater harm with all the RMT going on.
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  5. #75
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    So you have to work at SE to use basic logic. Gotcha!

    It's not that hard to understand that a company would never prohibit any monetization options they definitely profit from for no reason. But people act here like SE did it just out of spite for players and gave no reason at all. While uh...they did actually talk about it which people completely ignore here. It's ofc not the best fix for the problem but it is a fairly decent one for the time being before it caused even much greater harm with all the RMT going on.
    Oh no, RMT is present in MMO's ? Please tell us more about how this will fix anything or "keep an eye" on it.

    It wont change anything, you and I both know it, stop being naive.

    This literally only punishes legit players, RMT'ers dont care about this one little bit.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    So you have to work at SE to use basic logic. Gotcha!

    It's not that hard to understand that a company would never prohibit any monetization options they definitely profit from for no reason. But people act here like SE did it just out of spite for players and gave no reason at all. While uh...they did actually talk about it which people completely ignore here. It's ofc not the best fix for the problem but it is a fairly decent one for the time being before it caused even much greater harm with all the RMT going on.
    There's a difference between speculation and proclamation. Firemage was making a proclamation, which isn't what you are talking about. It's fine to make reasonable speculations and discuss them.
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    Daybreak (formerly SOE) has alt currency and they have worse restrictions (You can't send anything at all), so it's actually reasonable to speculate this is how things will be. Sometimes, in order to look out for the customer, some things have to be taken away because too many can't take the time to think "is this smart, safe or wise to do?"

    I have friend that insists on handing out gifts and it didn't take her very long to figure out an alternative. Other folks can do the same.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 10-30-2022 at 07:54 AM.

  8. #78
    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Cinnabun Arulaq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    So you have to work at SE to use basic logic. Gotcha!

    It's not that hard to understand that a company would never prohibit any monetization options they definitely profit from for no reason. But people act here like SE did it just out of spite for players and gave no reason at all. While uh...they did actually talk about it which people completely ignore here. It's ofc not the best fix for the problem but it is a fairly decent one for the time being before it caused even much greater harm with all the RMT going on.
    No its very clear SE loses extra money just to steal our Christmas xD /s
    Imagine getting your Christmas ruined because of an in game online store. I don’t want to tell people to touch grass but they should touch grass.
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    Watch a flood of gifting service phishing scams that promise to bypass the gifting restrictions showing up in the next month - and players still falling for them despite what SE has posted.

    If they will fall for the 20% off Mogstation items scam, they'll fall for anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I agree, as much as WoW has it's problems, at least regarding the shop they are very much on top of it, the shop is smooth and not as archaic as FFXIV's, and also it's in the game as well
    We can hope that this has been the breaking point that forces SE to bring their online stores into the 21st century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    gifting still should of been in. Stupid to get rid of because of RMT. If someone wanted to pay for something then that is there prerogative. RMT for a mount isn't breaking the game. Now if it was to cheat the system its a different story
    Someone doesn't get what the issue was

    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    And you work for SE, so you have inside information about going on. No? Just acting pompous for the sake of it.
    The irony. Yes SE put this practice in place to spite people, you figured it out. Congrats

    /s
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