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    The real problem is streamers actively promoting rp / erp, Nightclubs and normalizing selling items in savage tier, making special videos / jokes about it while just slowly trying to ease it in / normalize it as if it was "normal" to do it, sorry, it is not, and it's not because you try very hard to normalize it incrementally by further and further degen jokes and slapping your knee as if it was nothing about it, that we don't see exactly what you are doing, in little bites months after months, easy example of this "temptation" by jokes and incremental admissions :

    https://youtu.be/uhoppBlncdw

    And "funnily"enough it's allways discord friends and players in the group of these streamers that are the first to make these types of statement and pollute other pf on other DC's to make it extra difficult for others to clear. Gatekeeping and trying to make customers in 2 target to hit with 1 stone.

    "OH no we would never ask for money, but gil, gil is okay.. but not money !"

    Also, since when it's even normal to go clear a raid and pay for the loot in gils, to begin with, just play ? and get a chance to roll ? What's up with that ? this mentality and way of doing things drips directly from "influencers" and they don't bear this name just for lulz.

    When it's absolutely, extremely easy to resell your gil to third party websites if you wanted to, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katt_Felista View Post
    The real problem is streamers actively promoting rp / erp, Nightclubs and normalizing selling items in savage tier, making special videos / jokes about it while just slowly trying to ease it in / normalize it as if it was "normal" to do it, sorry, it is not, and it's not because you try very hard to normalize it incrementally by further and further degen jokes and slapping your knee as if it was nothing about it, that we don't see exactly what you are doing, in little bites months after months, easy example of this "temptation" by jokes and incremental admissions :

    https://youtu.be/uhoppBlncdw

    And "funnily"enough it's allways discord friends and players in the group of these streamers that are the first to make these types of statement and pollute other pf on other DC's to make it extra difficult for others to clear. Gatekeeping and trying to make customers in 2 target to hit with 1 stone.

    "OH no we would never ask for money, but gil, gil is okay.. but not money !"

    Also, since when it's even normal to go clear a raid and pay for the loot in gils, to begin with, just play ? and get a chance to roll ? What's up with that ? this mentality and way of doing things drips directly from "influencers" and they don't bear this name just for lulz.

    When it's absolutely, extremely easy to resell your gil to third party websites if you wanted to, too.
    I promise you, it will be good for you if you stop hate watching streamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I promise you, it will be good for you if you stop hate watching streamers.
    "I'll never address the reality of it and the issue, but i'll just make npc comments because i'm default programmed into rmt apologist mode, the only mode i know, and also, 1 person bad, person bad, person bad, can't think, person bad."

    I think your disc has a scratch in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katt_Felista View Post
    "I'll never address the reality of it and the issue, but i'll just make npc comments because i'm default programmed into rmt apologist mode, the only mode i know, and also, 1 person bad, person bad, person bad, can't think, person bad."

    I think your disc has a scratch in it.
    Accusing me of being a broken record when you are spouting the same unfounded conspiracy theories from last tier. I am not surprised, sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Accusing me of being a broken record when you are spouting the same unfounded conspiracy theories from last tier. I am not surprised, sadly.
    Not my fault if you have a pea brain and can't correlate names of players in theses streams an attitudes + EPIC np(C) + many more other very similar run and gil selling websites, with repeated offerings of same discord names and discord servers* themselves where they all hang around, used by theses same "good friends" of streamers and other third selling websites claims of first to 10th world first raiders selling these and able to provide streams on twitch as a proof of "real man mode made" clears, as stated on these websites. I think the language is clear enough. You are just too lazy to even start looking to get it. Unfortunately, the phenomenon has grown to unhealthy proportions by help of making it "normalized" or cleverly adding here and there a mention of it in said streamer's streams, as "jokes", but at the same time, showing it not for innocent reasons, because it helps friends of friends make extra pocket money.

    in be4 saying "but they use these type of language to incriminate streamers on purpose !!!" kind of stuff, of course.

    Pro-tip : When your announcements are so repetitive, with use of the same langage / pictures / try to call your group a little different but not different enough over 5 / 6 different platforms, and you use about 3 different discord usernames to try to be anonymous and grammatically do the same recognizable errors, and in the end hang in the same places/servers all the time, after enough repeats, it's not very difficult / doesn't take a rocket scientist to get who you truely are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katt_Felista View Post
    Not my fault if you have a pea brain and can't correlate names of players in theses streams an attitudes + EPIC np(C) + many more other very similar run and gil selling websites, with repeated offerings of same discord names and discord servers* themselves where they all hang around, used by theses same "good friends" of streamers and other third selling websites claims of first to 10th world first raiders selling these and able to provide streams on twitch as a proof of "real man mode made" clears, as stated on these websites. I think the language is clear enough. You are just too lazy to even start looking to get it. Unfortunately, the phenomenon has grown to unhealthy proportions by help of making it "normalized" or cleverly adding here and there a mention of it in said streamer's streams, as "jokes", but at the same time, showing it not for innocent reasons, because it helps friends of friends make extra pocket money.

    in be4 saying "but they use these type of language to incriminate streamers on purpose !!!" kind of stuff, of course.

    Pro-tip : When your announcements are so repetitive, with use of the same langage / pictures / try to call your group a little different but not different enough over 5 / 6 different platforms, and you use about 3 different discord usernames to try to be anonymous and grammatically do the same recognizable errors, and in the end hang in the same places/servers all the time, after enough repeats, it's not very difficult / doesn't take a rocket scientist to get who you truely are.
    You are devolving more and more into gibberish. I never claimed that RMT doesnt exist. We've all seen the run seller PFs that thankfully dont plague PF anymore. If you think that xeno calling that party member out and doing it in a funny way is actually a run seller ad then you have completely lost the plot. The issue is how far you've taken it. You are way past the point of jumping at shadows and the "proof" you have presented so far has been 100% worthless. Other people are quick to call you out for being bad at the game and while you certainly arent a god at the game I dont think you're actually all that bad.

    Like someone else said, run sellers have better things to do than go into PF. People in PF will make mistakes and no one is immune to that. There is a point to be made that we are already far too unforgiving for every single mistake in PF and you take that even further. Dont claim malice when incompetence is the better explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katt_Felista View Post
    "I'll never address the reality of it and the issue, but i'll just make npc comments because i'm default programmed into rmt apologist mode, the only mode i know, and also, 1 person bad, person bad, person bad, can't think, person bad."

    I think your disc has a scratch in it.
    Man, you are sounding more and more unhinged the more you post. Look at Kanye, man, you don't want to be that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Man, you are sounding more and more unhinged the more you post. Look at Kanye, man, you don't want to be that.
    sometimes unmoderated forums are a bad idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    sometimes unmoderated forums are a bad idea
    True that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    sometimes unmoderated forums are a bad idea
    Oh no they are here, they just dont do nothing. The only time they take actions is if there are "leaks" other than that its all mad max
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?