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    Quote Originally Posted by Karasio View Post
    I'd personally like to see the gimmick of SAM's LB removed, maybe base numbers buffed some and reallocate the power budget into other areas like survivability. And also make it more consistent to use because at the end of the day it's still guaranteed damage in a potential AoE with no counterplay. Perhaps buff the lifesteal aoe to put up a little shield or something? 4k per person hit along with the 8k heal. Idk.

    I've got thoughts about dragoon I won't share here, but they play like assassins for the most part imo. At least that's how the kit looks, with nothing but damage.
    Sounds better tbh, the LB is indeed a gimmick and if you take it away the job is horrible for pvp entirely, that move is all it has going for it, so ya

    Remove the gimmick and rework the entire role. Idk about buffing it, but re work for sure. A gimmick shouldnt be what makes a role appealing….

    Even with that gimmick you never see sam at the top for kills in Frontline either. Its always NIN BLM DRG, and every rare day a GNB.
    Youd think with a map of noobs and that LB youd see them there, but nope
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    Last edited by UnrealTai; 10-23-2022 at 05:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealTai View Post
    Sounds better tbh, the LB is indeed a gimmick and if you take it away the job is horrible for pvp entirely, that move is all it has going for it, so ya

    Remove the gimmick and rework the entire role. Idk about buffing it, but re work for sure. A gimmick shouldnt be what makes a role appealing….

    Even with that gimmick you never see sam at the top for kills in Frontline either. Its always NIN BLM DRG, and every rare day a GNB.
    Youd think with a map of noobs and that LB youd see them there, but nope
    Nah SAM as a whole has a distinct playstyle and shit, just the LB feels so out of place with the stupid fucking gimmick. Removing that would encourage more interaction with SAM while giving their LB some more impact overall. I've seen so many high ranked players complain how the LB is "useless" in their tiers but like, it's still unblockable 24k damage lmao.

    As for frontlines, AoE shit dominates hardcore. One day I decided to queue FL as ninja for the fun of it. Never played the job before and I got like 15 kills just by pressing LB at the right time. They really need to nerf the range on that down to half or so. 30y is nuts for a resetting execute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karasio View Post
    Nah SAM as a whole has a distinct playstyle and shit, just the LB feels so out of place with the stupid fucking gimmick. Removing that would encourage more interaction with SAM while giving their LB some more impact overall. I've seen so many high ranked players complain how the LB is "useless" in their tiers but like, it's still unblockable 24k damage lmao.

    As for frontlines, AoE shit dominates hardcore. One day I decided to queue FL as ninja for the fun of it. Never played the job before and I got like 15 kills just by pressing LB at the right time. They really need to nerf the range on that down to half or so. 30y is nuts for a resetting execute.
    [Zantetsuken]'s 24000 dmg default hit without the Kuzushi condition is actually not a Guard pierce, from what I found out recently.

    I tried to hit through Guard with it intentionally, but it did 2400 damage on a target below 24000 HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    [Zantetsuken]'s 24000 dmg default hit without the Kuzushi condition is actually not a Guard pierce, from what I found out recently.

    I tried to hit through Guard with it intentionally, but it did 2400 damage on a target below 24000 HP.
    Ooooh wow. That LB really is worthless without the gimmick.. There's something they could do with it at least. Make it pierce guard in return for not having that stupid gimmick nobody likes.
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