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  1. #11
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    It's good that auto-demolition is off and hopefully it will be here to stay or at least that the timer be extended to longer than the current 45 days (at least 90 days imo).

    It's a really sucky feeling for one to come back to the game and realise that you've lost your house which you've worked so hard to obtain, I don't think housing is ever removed forcibly from players in other MMOs due to inactivity and it shouldn't be in FFXIV either. The solution should be to increase the housing supply and not punishing the playerbase.
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  2. #12
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    They should just keep it off. Accept that auto-demolition is a band-aid and a bad idea. Address the actual housing supply issues in other ways.
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  3. #13
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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    It's good that auto-demolition is off and hopefully it will be here to stay or at least that the timer be extended to longer than the current 45 days (at least 90 days imo).

    It's a really sucky feeling for one to come back to the game and realise that you've lost your house which you've worked so hard to obtain, I don't think housing is ever removed forcibly from players in other MMOs due to inactivity and it shouldn't be in FFXIV either. The solution should be to increase the housing supply and not punishing the playerbase.
    ON the other hand, if you're away from the game for 90 days, then you should expect the game to move on without you. That's 3-month's time. If you can't find something in 3 months to grab your attention enough to log in, then it's time for a new game, my friend. If you've been logging and and you haven't checked your house in 90 days, then you don't need a house. Not going to garner likes with this but I really think this is a fact that nobody wants to think about or hear because of the me-first attitude that tends to permeate the housing community.

    Re-instate auto demolition. Relinquish the unused houses to the community. I'm tired of my 1:350 chances of winning a house.
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  4. #14
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    They could definitely do a purge. Maybe 45 days is a bit short but every 3-6 months would probably free several dozens houses from people who stopped playing. Maybe give a linger delay to recuperate decos afterwards. Other games don’t do it but they don’t have a limited and finite supply as SE’s system. Without demolition there will basically be no chance for new players to get a house unless they add more wards. Not getting rid of abandoned houses also goes against this so-called “neighborhood” feel that they always talk about. When auto demo was on, even if the number was limited, there were houses for sale on a regular basis which is not the case now. A small number is better than none at all.

    I have a house and would totally be ok with it being demolished if I stopped playing.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 10-20-2022 at 04:59 AM.

  5. #15
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    I wasn't even aware they stopped doing auto-demolitions lol.

    I ended up losing my house when I got memed hard by covid and I even lost the gil and all of the furniture because I was so messed up I ended up missing the timer for recovering the stuff.
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  6. #16
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Why is the Ukraine/Russia conflict turning auto-demolition off for all DCs?

    SE seems to apply policies with very little consistency or logic.
    We can agree on the second part, the first though is a "player-made-up" fact. SE never claimed that demo was off for the war in Ukraine. They said "current world situation", which is a bit nebulous, but players assumed that this meant Ukraine despite them not saying this.

    That it includes the other three data centres - most importantly including OCE where few Europeans can play due to the 240+ms ping - one has to conclude that while the war in Ukraine is a factor, it's not the entire reason. There are other factors here, like multiple one-in-a-thousand year weather events, inflation, and more. There is also likely a desire by SE to fill the "multiple new worlds" in the game up a bit too.

    Not having demo turned on is still a fairly large impetus for a relative small number of people to free-transfer and change the "current world situation" where too many are on Balmung and Mateus, while relatively few will be on Halicarnassus, and Seraph.


    My thoughts. Keep it off for the immediate future. Let all worlds housing fill up and don't let the shortage on Balmung influence what happens on Halicarnassus.
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    They should just keep it off. Accept that auto-demolition is a band-aid and a bad idea. Address the actual housing supply issues in other ways.
    Auto demolition is a great idea, people shouldn't have limited resources if they aren't going to use them
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  8. #18
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    I thought SE can't reactive the timer until Ukraine won the war.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    ON the other hand, if you're away from the game for 90 days, then you should expect the game to move on without you. That's 3-month's time. If you can't find something in 3 months to grab your attention enough to log in, then it's time for a new game, my friend. If you've been logging and and you haven't checked your house in 90 days, then you don't need a house. Not going to garner likes with this but I really think this is a fact that nobody wants to think about or hear because of the me-first attitude that tends to permeate the housing community.

    Re-instate auto demolition. Relinquish the unused houses to the community. I'm tired of my 1:350 chances of winning a house.
    Thanks for your feedback but I respectfully beg to differ.

    Given that the patch cycle between each major patch is around 4 months and the game producer, Yoship himself has advised players to unsubscribe should they feel that they have gotten their money worth out of their playtime, it is reasonable to assume that some players will subscribe for a month during a new patch cycle to enjoy the new patch content before unsubscribing instead of paying for a subscription perpetually.

    In this scenario, such a player will have an active subscription for 1 out of every 4 months, which is where the 90 day cycle which I suggested for auto-demolition is derived from. Nobody needs a virtual house in a MMO, it's a want. Don't get me wrong, I understand the frustration of bidding in a lottery and failing to get a house which I have experienced repeatedly myself in Balmung. Which is why I had an alt in Zurvan just to experience housing.

    Not saying that everyone should do what I did, but if you are unwilling to really want a house in your native data center, your best bet would be the existing new worlds if you are in EU or upcoming new data center (Nov 22) if you are in NA.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    ON the other hand, if you're away from the game for 90 days, then you should expect the game to move on without you. That's 3-month's time. If you can't find something in 3 months to grab your attention enough to log in, then it's time for a new game, my friend. If you've been logging and and you haven't checked your house in 90 days, then you don't need a house. Not going to garner likes with this but I really think this is a fact that nobody wants to think about or hear because of the me-first attitude that tends to permeate the housing community.
    By your logic, then if you take a break for 90 days, remove mounts, levels, gil, etc. You don't need those levels or gil or achievements. No taking breaks in this game! SE should just delete your character after 90 days.

    Housing is the only aspect of the game that can be lost to a player. Nothing else goes away when they take a break. Where's the logic in that?
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