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    Liz Ard
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxantos View Post
    A possible solution was to add instanced housing in the instanced Island. Yet they decided not to do it.

    I think they do not do instanced housing to keep a carrot on players who do have a house so they continue to pay subscription.
    For me the reason they don't do instanced housing is because the cool thing about FFXIV housing IS having wards and neighbors and not being instanced. It's what makes housing in this game different! It's actually really fun when house owners in a ward are active and you can see your neighbors changing things around, visiting them, seeing people, active FCs and RP venues. Plus, apartments ARE instanced housing and people just don't use them, you don't see them around, a lot are abandoned...it's simply not as fun in that sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by rxantos View Post
    Although, to be honest, the only thing you miss from having a house is having a garden. Everything else you can do in an apartment.
    EXACTLY. Now please tell this to people that never even tried having an apartment but think they're entitled to a house they're most likely going to abandon in 2 weeks. I've seen many people don't even try to decorate their own apartments, get a house, struggle with decorating, decide they're not that into it and just abandoning and never using it again - but since auto-demolition is not on, they're just...there.

    Also, about missing out on gardens - YoshiP already said that he plans on making possible to put outdoor items in your island to decorate it. There you go, instanced garden decoration!
    If you're talking about the housing garden plots...they're really not that big of a deal that people make it seem to be. They're not really a good source of gil, you have to log in and actively take care of it (or have a friendly neighbor that waters them for you) everyday or things die which can make them a chore, everything you get from it you can buy cheap on the marketboard or get by other means. If you go walking around random wards you will notice a LOT of people don't plant anything on theirs, or don't even have them.
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    Last edited by chizLemons; 10-22-2022 at 04:07 AM.

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    Celes Bradford
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    A possible solution was to add instanced housing in the instanced Island. Yet they decided not to do it.

    I think they do not do instanced housing to keep a carrot on players who do have a house so they continue to pay subscription.

    Although, to be honest, the only thing you miss from having a house is having a garden. Everything else you can do in an apartment.
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxantos View Post
    I think they do not do instanced housing to keep a carrot on players who do have a house so they continue to pay subscription.
    Without demolitions you do not even need an active subscription to be able to enter the house. And by the rate they disable this auto demolition... i dont realy see it as a carrot, more the opposite. If you dont have a house, you are required to stay subscribed to get your chance on every cycle.
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    Mierin L'eronaile
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    In addition to preventing people for getting access to abandoned homes, the auto-demolition halt has absolutely killed the market for furnishings and fixtures. Without new homes bought, there is no demand for new furnishings. I'm lucky if I sell 2-3 a week. Prices have completely plummeted. This auto-demolition halt is affecting A LOT more than just the supply of new housing. And I'm beyond annoyed that it has been in place for over 10 months now.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolks View Post
    In addition to preventing people for getting access to abandoned homes, the auto-demolition halt has absolutely killed the market for furnishings and fixtures. Without new homes bought, there is no demand for new furnishings. I'm lucky if I sell 2-3 a week. Prices have completely plummeted. This auto-demolition halt is affecting A LOT more than just the supply of new housing. And I'm beyond annoyed that it has been in place for over 10 months now.
    There's still demand for furnishings, though not as great as when lots of houses are available. Players do buy apartments and FC chambers. They do redecorate.

    If you're only selling 2-3 items a week, you're probably trying to sell the wrong items. My cousin (who is also on Zalera) has been making 500k - 1.5 million gil a day selling the various imitation windows. She's super excited because she's now got enough gil to get herself a medium house after initially saving what she had been making so her FC can get a large house when they move to Dynamis.

    Prices plummeting isn't an issue as long as there's still profit over the cost of making an item. How much you sell can be more important than how much an item sell for. Price items too high and you price the item out of the interest range for players who would otherwise buy.

    Ultimately the same answer goes to you that I give to people certain that if demolition resumes, they'd be able to get a house. It's not going to have the dramatic impact you expect. There will still be far more players left disappointed than who manage to get lucky - and chances are you're going to end up part of the first group.
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    Oriana Alesong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    If you're only selling 2-3 items a week, you're probably trying to sell the wrong items. My cousin (who is also on Zalera) has been making 500k - 1.5 million gil a day selling the various imitation windows. She's super excited because she's now got enough gil to get herself a medium house after initially saving what she had been making so her FC can get a large house when they move to Dynamis.
    First of all, grats to your cousin for doing awesome business.

    Out of curiosity, which server is she going to? I'm hoping to avoid the Crystal crowd and find the most unpopulated server to better my chances of getting a Medium. I know, I'm asking to get my soul crushed on November 10th. I've already bought ingredients to make misery pancakes that morning...
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brygd View Post
    First of all, grats to your cousin for doing awesome business.

    Out of curiosity, which server is she going to? I'm hoping to avoid the Crystal crowd and find the most unpopulated server to better my chances of getting a Medium. I know, I'm asking to get my soul crushed on November 10th. I've already bought ingredients to make misery pancakes that morning...
    Based on talk and role reactions in the Dynamis Discord that was set up, it looks like Seraph is going to be the most populated server and picking up most of the RP crowd.

    Interest in the other 3 servers seems to be fairly evenly split with Marilith getting slightly more interest but still far less than Seraph. Some are talking about making Halicarnassus the unofficial PvP server.

    It's really going to be hard to say which will end up the smallest. Most who will transfer aren't going to the forums or Discords to talk about their plans.

    Unless you have a specific medium in mind, I wouldn't worry too much about competition. If SE splits the wards 50/50, there will be 840 personal Mediums per world available. Most players complaining about not having a house still won't transfer to get one and even if they do, they probably only have the gil for a small.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-25-2022 at 06:10 AM.

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