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    Auto Demolitions Need to be Reactivated

    If this is continually put aside due to world troubles then it will never be active. The world IS trouble. Its ALWAYS going to have problems.
    If SE cant do something to give more housing then they have to reinstate demolitions.
    I find it disgusting they gave us that damn island to appease us while claiming more housing would be too hard on servers or some other garbage. Bullshit.
    Why not give us a house on our islands?
    But until they do something they need to activate auto demolitions.
    Surely its not laziness???? *cough cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSpite View Post
    If this is continually put aside due to world troubles then it will never be active. The world IS trouble. Its ALWAYS going to have problems.
    If SE cant do something to give more housing then they have to reinstate demolitions.
    I find it disgusting they gave us that damn island to appease us while claiming more housing would be too hard on servers or some other garbage. Bullshit.
    Why not give us a house on our islands?
    But until they do something they need to activate auto demolitions.
    Surely its not laziness???? *cough cough*
    When did SE say they can't give us more houses because it would be too hard on servers?

    They said back in Shadowbringers they couldn't give us more at that time because they were having problems obtaining hardware due to the microchip shortage.

    They just announced in the 14 hour broadcast that they have to plans to increase the number of wards per world but they're still working out the details so can't give us an estimated date.

    I suspect you're confusing player discussion about the merits of wards versus instanced housing when it comes to server load as being some sort of announcement from SE when it's not.

    As for reactivating demolition, I don't expect that to happen until after all the new worlds for EU and NA have been opened. For the time being, the houses that are/will be available on those worlds are a dangling carrot to help SE get those worlds populated with veteran players.

    Even if they did reactivate demolition, your chances of getting a house remain very small. What would you demand next when you keep losing in the lottery for the relatively small number of houses that demolition would make available?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    When did SE say they can't give us more houses because it would be too hard on servers?

    They said back in Shadowbringers they couldn't give us more at that time because they were having problems obtaining hardware due to the microchip shortage.

    They just announced in the 14 hour broadcast that they have to plans to increase the number of wards per world but they're still working out the details so can't give us an estimated date.
    They always have plans to add more housing. Adding new wards every 1~2-ish years has been their modus operandi even from well before the shortage.

    It's also only ever a small fraction of the demand from housing. Also since well before the shortage.

    So, sure, SE will continue the drip feed as they always do. Will it come remotely close to being enough? Well, it's never happened in the 8 years since the system's release... but perhaps this time will be different. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Even if they did reactivate demolition, your chances of getting a house remain very small. What would you demand next when you keep losing in the lottery for the relatively small number of houses that demolition would make available?
    I disagree. Chances would be significantly improved if auto-demolition was enabled because historically a large number of houses become available in the first wave. After that, there is a healthy amount of houses rotating per month compared to when auto-demolition is off.

    While there is a lull in FFXIV content, it's easy to miss the auto-demolition email, especially if it goes to your spam folder.
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    Last edited by Kitsu; 10-18-2022 at 06:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsu View Post
    I disagree. Chances would be significantly improved if auto-demolition was enabled because historically a large number of houses become available in the first wave. After that, there is a healthy amount of houses rotating per month compared to when auto-demolition is off.

    While there is a lull in FFXIV content, it's easy to miss the auto-demolition email, especially if it goes to your spam folder.
    That was true prior to Shadowbringers. The periods that demolition have been active since Shadowbringers launch have seen relatively few houses become available. The player population has increased greatly so players are a lot more interested in not losing their houses.

    I'm not trying to say there won't be any houses made available but that number will be far less than the number of players seeking to get a house now that SE is using a lottery system and the population has more than doubled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As for reactivating demolition, I don't expect that to happen until after all the new worlds for EU and NA have been opened.
    I suspect this is the case and after time has been allowed for them to populate. There are lots of houses in the new servers and those to come and their focus will be to populate them. Housing is a major carrot.
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    Still major crisis in the world, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    There are lots of houses in the new servers
    This is very true. With 4 new servers, the NA data center is going to have 28,800 new houses available for sale in 18 days. They havent announced the planned FC/Personal split, but the first wave of people to transfer over will be all but guaranteed to get a house in whichever district they like best - and a decent shot at whichever is their dream plot. And still being NA servers, theyll be free to world/DC visit if the duty/party finder takes awhile to get up to speed on the new worlds or they want to continue adventuring with friends who didnt transfer. It isnt perfect, but some people will end up very happy in a couple weeks.
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    Demolition is a gross practice that's needed to support a gross system that should have been phased out years ago anyway. Instancing is future proofed, but the devs seem to be in love with the ward system and they're not willing to compromise on it at all. Worse still, they won't even bring back demolition so their system can sort of function properly. They'd rather have a broken system functioning at half capacity, and then tell us that instancing isn't possible because of the game's limitations, while simultaneously giving everyone in the entire game an instanced customizable island.

    So yeah, I agree with OP but I also kind of don't. If we're stuck with this shit system, then yeah, it requires demolition to function properly and they should bring it back. But the ideal solution would be one that actually works for the game's future, allows everyone who wants a home to have a home, and doesn't require a heartbreaking system where someone returns after a break and finds their home demolished. I think a 2 billion dollar game studio should be able to do this for one of its most consistently profitable titles, but I'm sure someone will stop by to tell me why aCkShuALly square isn't rEqUiRed to do anything and I should just unsub if I don't like it.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 10-19-2022 at 05:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    They said back in Shadowbringers they couldn't give us more at that time because they were having problems obtaining hardware due to the microchip shortage.
    There's been a housing shortage since ARR. There was no microchip shortage then. That's a convenient excuse.

    The fact that there even IS auto-demolition shows that their system is broken. There's no other aspect of the game where a player that goes on hiatus loses anything. Why housing then? And the fact that auto-demolition turns off at all when it is designed to free up housing plots is just a further contradiction by SE. The logic just isn't there.

    At a bare minimum, enable auto-demolition to the DCs that serve the region that is in crisis. When SE turned off auto-demolition for weather-related events in the US, they didn't disable it for EU/JP servers. Why is the Ukraine/Russia conflict turning auto-demolition off for all DCs?

    SE seems to apply policies with very little consistency or logic.
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    Last edited by dspguy; 10-19-2022 at 07:22 AM.

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