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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Been playing since ARR launch. I've never seen any incident where someone is told to shut up. I've made simple statements on how to resolve a mechanic and have always gotten a nice and short ok/thanks. Its not that complicated. Good example is the raids this tier in P6. New guy didn't know what to do with the snakes and I just typed "face away with snake" and he was like "ah ok" and then he did it right when it happened again. The "toxicity" is when people go overboard with their explanations and are usually crass about it.
    First off. Please do not be so patronizing. "It's not that complicated"? Yes, I am aware it's not that complicated. You saw what I wrote, in the exact same tone as how I write in-game because I know, especially now more than ever, that if I say anything wrong to an already flustered or ignoring sprout, I'm not going to win any favours. So please, keep those comments to yourself. Complicated had nothing to do with it.

    And secondly, I think you misjudge. If people ask me for something that requires a bit of elaboration, I sum it up first, and then provide an explanation later. I don't start barging in with "You have to do this, this and that at this hour, this time, this place, this mindset". No, at worst I just say "Try using this cooldown first, it helps more than the others". If they ask why, then I elaborate. Especially since more often than not I'm healing through pulls and I have better stuff to do. Typing while autorunning is still slow xD

    Again. Great that you have been playing since ARR. For real. But I've been playing for far less than you guys and I've already been hit with those cases, and have also seen people approach players normally and being snapped back at it. At no point were we rude. At no point were people accusatory. Often people just want to help.

    I really don't understand this fixation with "I've been playing since ARR\1.0". Do you want a cookie for that, guys...? A title, a medal? Playtime doesn't necessarily imply authority. Great, you've been playing and haven't seen that. Congratulations to you, it means you didn't meet people who would get defensive the moment they were approached for everyone to see. And I hope you continue not seeing it. Again, probably a datacenter thing, who knows, maybe EU people are rude. Though I doubt it. But don't dismiss experiences simply because you have been playing for longer and haven't encountered instances of this. Different playstyles, different situations. You are not any better, so don't say things like "it's not that complicated" as if we were doing something wrong. Odds are we're doing the same as you. And in my experience? Being so snippy with "face away with snake" does often help, yes... but guess what, I have also seen it happen to a friend of mine where he does it and people thought he was judging them. It was no different than what you want people to do. Yet it still happened. Again: I'm sorry, but you are not doing anything special.

    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    As for the "read tooltips" suggestion to teach people how to play, I don't think I've ever read a tooltip in this game haha I cleared 2 ultimates and 6 savage tiers without ever reading one. But I read guides on jobs I want to play because a tooltip just doesn't give me the exact information I want. A guide gives me more context so I absorb the info better and have a better idea of when to use what. But obviously a whole in game guide isn't feasible. I would rather they just update Hall of the Novice and make it mandatory for new players. People absorb info better by actually doing stuff so a more in depth Hall of the Novice would be nice.
    Exactly, even if they did read tooltips, what's to say they're even understanding what's on there?
    I don't think Square understands how their game works to such a level as to make detailed guides for jobs that have some unintended clunk. But if they were to make those guides, they should make them mandatory to go through at some point. If anything so that people can at least have a baseline of know-how before tackling the game. It's fun to explore and all that, but if exploration stifles that minimum know-how, then it's just a hassle.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 10-18-2022 at 01:07 PM.